RADIO CALL — TAPES #678 & #679 EXCERPTS
Q: Mark Russell Bell
A: Art Bell, host of “Coast to Coast AM”
F: unidentified caller on the first-time caller line
C: Chris, caller from Honolulu
B: unidentified caller from Lubbock
R: Ross Mitchell, taped announcements for “Coast to Coast AM”
V: unidentified caller from Victoria, British Columbia
M: Mike, caller from the vicinity of Wheat, California
L: Dr. Linda R, excerpt from broadcast
E: Beverly, caller from Elk Run
P: KFI-AM 640 promos
K: caller from Pusan, Korea
T: Travis, caller from Casino
G: caller from Virginia Beach
O: Albert, caller from Tacoma
L: Lee, caller from Dennison
S: Sandra, caller from Illinois
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: I CALLED "COAST TO COAST AM" IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF FEB. 15TH.) Q: So it's Wednesday night, the 14th of February, Valentine's Day and I do plan on calling "Coast to Coast A.M" with Art Bell tonight. He's doing a show of open lines on the subject of entities so I think he wants me to call. But I might be mistaken. I just visited his homepage and I see I'm visitor or "encounterer" 62,797,666. I was thinking about checking my message boards but I'm pretty sure they're still there and people have ignored them — at least apparently ignored them. Story of my life just about so far. I should say I did get out my Art Bell file of faxes and Emails over the years and I was mortified by some of the things that I saw.
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A: (off the air during commercials) Hi there, do you have a story for us?
Q: (off air) Yes, I do.
A: (off air) Pretty good one?
Q: (off air) It's very good. ("ONE")
A: (off air) Hold tight. (commercials follow)
A: Alright, back into that dark night and the phone lines. Here we go. First time caller line, you're on the air. Cheerio.
F: Hi Art.
A: Hello there.
F: Can you hear me alright? You said you couldn't hear me earlier.
A: Boy, you sound — hold on and let's see if I can straighten this out. Try it again.
F: Can you — how —that better?
A: No, you are totally distorted and ripped up and torn apart.
F: Is that any better?
A: Oh that's much better.
F: I'm sorry. I had an earpiece and I was driving. Well I have two things for you Art. One: last year I was driving — I think it was last year. I just — when you were talking about losing time, I kind of uncovered this memory. I drive a truck and I was driving back from Illinois and I remember looking — I was kind of groggy, a little tired. I remember looking out the window. Something caught my eye.
A: You mean a big eighteen-wheeler?
F: Right. I drive a tanker full of petroleum.
A: Uh-huh. Oh a tanker?
F: Right.
A: Oh we really love to hear about groggy tanker drivers. Okay.
F: (small laugh) Well I wasn't sleepy. I was just a little groggy, kind of daydreaming.
A: Uh-huh.
F: Anyway, I was coming back from Illinois going towards Indianapolis. I'm calling from Indianapolis.
A: Right.
F: And something caught my eye. The next thing I know I'm standing — or not standing. I'm beside the road at an off-ramp . . . back on my . . .
A: Uh-oh, you're breaking up again.
F: Oh no.
A: They know you're telling this story and they're breaking you up.
F: Is that better, Art?
A: That's better.
F: Okay, anyway —
A: Don't move. Just stay right where you are.
F: I had — didn't move the last time. Anyways, I'm driving and I see something out of the corner of my eye. Next thing I know I'm on an off-ramp and I'm sitting on my sleeper. I feel like I just woke up and three hours had just elapsed.
A: (small laugh) Oh lordy.
F: I had — where was I coming from? I have no idea. Another thing — I saw an entity last year, a rather frightening entity.
A: Oh?
F: It entered my house and walked down my hallway and walked between my children's room. And, as I went to go after him, my wife told me not to . . .
A: Meaning she must've seen it too.
F: She did see it. Well the thing is — the first time I'd ever seen it. It scared me to death. And I asked her afterwards what it was I saw and she described to me exactly —
A: What you saw.
F: — what I saw and she didn't see it.
A: Well ask me how happy I am about hearing you just driving this big tanker and then suddenly ending up in a rest area, waken up I suppose, huh?
F: No, I wasn't waking up. That's the thing. It just — ("E") here's the difference. I know when I get tired and when I pull over and that's not what happened. I just — I lost three hours and where it went I don't know. I wasn't asleep.
A: I bet that scared the hell out of you.
F: It scared the shit out of me. I'm sorry.
A: No, I can't let you say that word on the air.
F: I'm sorry. I —
A: That's one of the few words that George Carlin said definitively you cannot say on the air. But I understand what it scared out of you and so does everybody else. ("YES") I appreciate the call, sir. Thank you. Oh God. A tanker truck yet. That would be a very serious loss of time. I bet he didn't tell the boss about that one. Wild card line, you're on the air. Hi.
C: Hey good morning and good night. It's still night here in Honolulu, Hawaii. This is Chris. I'm listening at you from KHVH and — close proximity to 19/45, the planetary hot spot.
[TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: A CONVERSATION FOLLOWED THAT INCLUDED THE CALLER SAYING ". . . we're in nine planet alignment now and it's probably going to be this year will be the year that California's going to be shaken up quite a bit."]
A: My MRI, sir, thank you very much, was my back. So I suppose they were not irradiating my head. Now I've had some pretty abby-normal experiences with my back but nothing paranormal. East of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
B: Hi.
A: Hello.
B: My goodness, you get nervous as —
A: Where in the world are you?
B: I'm in Lubbock, Texas.
[TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: THE CALLER DESCRIBED AN INCIDENT WHILE CLEANING A RABBIT'S CAGE: "And a little furry ball rolls over my hand . . . Maybe the size of a nice-size lime . . . And I tried to close my fingers around it to see what it was but then it just — whittt. It was gone . . . I just thought, 'What are you?' It said, 'Well I'm a furry ball' . . . And I'm just as serious as I can be." ALSO DISCUSSED WAS AN HOUR-LONG MRI SESSION THAT SEEMED TO BE OVER IN A MINUTE AND A HALF.]
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: THE BUMPER MUSIC HEARD ON THE AIR WAS FOLLOWED BY OTHER SONGS WHILE I WAS ON HOLD THROUGH THE BREAK.)
A very old friend came by today 'Cause he was telling everyone in town Of the love that he just found And Marie's the name of his latest flame
He talked and talked and I heard him say That she had the longest blackest hair The prettiest green eyes anywhere And Marie's the name of his latest flame
Though I smiled the tears inside were a-burning I wished him luck and then he said goodbye He was gone but still his words kept returning What else was there for me to do but cry?
Would you believe that yesterday This girl was in my arms and swore to me She'd be mine eternally And Marie's the name of his latest flame . . .
("His Latest Flame" performed by Elvis Presley)
Mississippi in the middle of a dry spell Jimmy Rogers on the Victrola up high Mama's dancing baby on a shoulder The sun is setting like molasses in the sky The boy could sing, knew how to move, everything Always wanting more, he'd leave you longing for
Black velvet and that little boy smile Black velvet with that slow southern style A new religion that'll bring ya to your knees Black velvet if you please . . .
("Black Velvet" performed by Alannah Myles)
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. . . Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Me loving him is just too slim yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Heartache ooh I get 'em every every day (Nothing but a heartache) Tears pouring all down my face (Nothing but a tear drop) Ooh the man has got me so uptight
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Loving that guy is such a sin yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) To witness that I just can't win yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
I got a lot of those heartaches I got a lot of those tear drops Heartaches Tear drops All of the way Nothing but a heartache every day . . .
("Nothing But A Heartache" performed by The Flirtations)
A: (off air) Alright everybody we're at break. We're about thirty seconds from a real startup here so everybody sit tight. Let me push this button and stop the girls and cue the girls and get them ready to go here for "Coast To Coast AM" or "Tales From The Crypt," depending on your point of view. G minus ten.
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Loving that guy is such a sin yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) To witness that I just can't win yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
I got a lot of those heartaches I got a lot of those tear drops Heartaches Tear drops All of the way . . .
R: Want to take a ride? Call Art Bell from west of the Rockies at (gives number); east of the Rockies at (gives number); first-time callers may reach Art at (gives number); or call the wild card line at (gives number). To talk with Art on the toll-free international line, call your AT&T operator and have them dial (gives number). This is "Coast to Coast AM" with Art Bell.
A: Well "Coast To Coast AM" is more like "Tales From the Crypt" here. Good evening everybody. We're really into it. All kinds of strange stories: MRIs, big electro-magnetic fields, strange encounters of the time kind, close encounters of the fourth kind, conventional stories and, of course as always welcome here, Area 51 callers. Boy, these girls, they — they really can belt it out, can't they? Anyway, onward. (commercial segue)
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A: "Tales From The Crypt." (small laugh) Good morning, everybody. I'm Art Bell. Listen, tomorrow night in the first hour Richard C. Hoagland and he's got a lot of news for you. In the second hour, it's going to be a remarkable man that I guess I did a show or two with him before leaving. His name is Dr. David Anderson. He works for the Time Travel Research Center And Association. He's a real scientist with a real lab kind of secret that's working on time travel and they've actually achieved the beginnings of time travel. This is a serious fellow and he has a lot to say. And so we'll talk about one of my favorite topics tomorrow night. Time travel. The guy is something else. Dr. David Anderson. Okay, let's see where to go. How about the international line. You're on the air. Hi.
V: Hi there. Is that me, Art?
A: That's you.
V: Okay. I was traveling at nighttime on Highway 5 coming southwest out of Jasper when I — at nighttime around midnight.
A: Where are you now, by the way?
V: Victoria, B.C.
A: Victoria, B.C. Alright. Are — so there you are on 5.
V: Yeah. And that's in the interior. Just as you've taken off from Highway 16 out of Jasper and you branch off onto Highway 5. And I was traveling alone. It was around midnight. It was a wintery night, the end of December of 1981. And — traveling by myself — ("N") very little traffic around. I was practically the only one on the highway. And I was traveling over quite a long bridge which had a slight little turn in it at the end. And before I reached the end of the bridge I would be about two-thirds way over the bridge now — quite a long bridge. And I could see on my left hand side something dark moving towards me. And so I brought my car to a stop right on the bridge and I didn't dare approach any closer to it because it was coming in my direction.
A: Well what did it look like? Did it look like a car? A mass of —
V: Oh no, it was a living being.
A: A being?
V: It was not an automobile.
A: Okay.
V: It was huge. I'd say — well it was dark, black. If you can see it (when) you're driving in the mountains on a winter night with white snow everywhere —
A: Oh I can. I can.
V: Yes, and it is almost like being in a moonlit night. ("IT") So I could see but it would be like the moonlight would be behind the beings there. What was a very, very tall — I presume that would be the male. I'd say eight to night feet tall. Dark.
A: A male what?
V: A Sasquatch.
A: A Sasquatch — bigfoot?
V: Yes. And I couldn't see the facial features but I could see the form because it was so black.
A: Oh my God, so here you are stuck in the snow on a bridge stopped with a big Sasquatch coming at you?
V: Exactly.
A: Great.
V: And I'd say it would be several hundreds of feet down from me before it had ever come near the bridge. But I came to a total stop right on the bridge and with him was a lesser, lower — not as tall person or being. And I'd say she would be — I presume that would be the mother.
A: This is lunch?
V: She'd be about a head less ("IAN") in height.
A: Right. ("ABOUT")
V: A young one about three feet tall.
A: Mini-squatch.
V: Exactly. And they were walking along in the direction towards me. I was so terribly frightened I didn't know what to do. I was only driving a little Honda which they could've opened that up like a sardine can.
A: Maybe they were out for an evening meal?
V: (small laugh) Exactly. So I stayed where I was and I — I believe I even turned my lights off so that they wouldn't think that I was aggressive at all, anyway. But I could still see them coming and approaching towards —
A: In other words, why call attention to yourself, right?
V: Yes. So they certainly knew that I was there but I wanted them to know that I — ("NO") I had no ill will towards them and whatever their business was I was certainly not going to interfere. ("PRINCE") And as they approached the bridge — I'd say about fifty feet before they got to the bridge they made a sharp right hand turn. There were great big tall snow banks on either side. They went immediately, turned right and went up over the snowbank and up the hill. And the young little one had a problem getting up over the snowbank and the parent, the father, just reached his hand below the little bum of this little one, the young one, and gave him a little boost up over the snow bank.
A: Wow.
V: And they walked totally upright. There was not a hunch. And grizzly bear — they say. "Oh well, a grizzly bear." Grizzly bear do not stay with the mother ("AND") and the baby because she won't permit it.
A: That's right.
V: They don't walk upright that length of ("R") space. ("COME")
A: Did you hear any noise or smell any smell?
V: No. I've been asked that before. But it was a crisp, cold wintery evening where — it's sort of like refrigeration keeps — it's not like summer time where smells would be more obvious.
A: Right.
V: So the air was crisp and clean and no, I didn't notice that at all. But when I could see that they had went right up over the bank and up the side of the mountain. Then I knew that they were ("YOU KNOW") their intention was not going to be aggression against me. And so then I inched my way along the bridge. As soon as I knew that they were up over the snowbank and going up the side of the mountain or the little hill there. ("GET") And I approached very slowly. And by the time I got to the place where they had gone over the snowbank, they were already ("THEY NEED") thirty feet already up the hill where the treeline was. So I knew that they — they knew I was not aggressive towards them. They knew I was ("NOT") — I knew they were not aggressive towards me.
A: But you have seen an entire Sasquatch family?
V: Entire family. Entire family but I want to tell you more what I did. As soon as I knew and I got past the place where they had went up the hill, I went ("NO") twenty-five to fifty feet ahead and I thought, "This is an opportunity of a lifetime." So I spun my car around and turned it right toward the bank, put my headlights on high beam and shown it up the hill. (small laugh) I'm quite adventurous, I guess.
A: And?
V: But by that time they were in the tree line and there was nothing. I couldn't see them. But I — just ho(ped) (or "JUST HO") —
A: You're lucky they didn't come down and beat the hell out of you for not dimming.
V: (laughs) Well not only that — I've got laryngitis. I'm sorry, Art, I sound so terrible.
A: That's alright. That's — ("THEY LIVE AMONGST US")
V: But I want to tell you what I did. I stopped at the nearest community which was about twenty miles down the road. And I decided to stay there overnight because I was going to go back to the spot and see it in the daytime to see what kind of footprints. And I've been asked this question before: "Were there claws?" No, there weren't claws. "What size was the male foot?" I'd say about a size 12 times two, at least.
A: (small laugh) ("M[ALE]")
V: That's the male. And then the mother —
A: A good 24.
V: She walked along at the side. You could see the footprints of the baby. ("AND") Three separate beings went up that hill and I went back there the next day. I didn't have a camera. But I went there right up to the place where it was. I went over a little embankment of snow and started to go up the little hill. And I was walking on the surface of the snow. And the footprints had sunk way down about two feet into the snow.
A: Well that's one whale of a tale. And you swear —
V: Ohhh —
A: — you swear its true, right?
V: On the Bible I'd swear it was true.
A: Alright. Then sold. Thank you very much for the call. On the Bible. That gives me (or "THAT GIVES ME") — family. First-time caller line, you're on the air. Hi.
M: Hello. Is that me, Art?
A: Well only you know that for sure. Maybe you and your hairdresser. Yeah.
M: (small laugh) ("YOU") Okay, this is Mike. I'm another truck driver. I've been a local — faithful listener for a long time.
A: Yes sir. And where are you?
M: I'm currently near Wheat, California and I'm listening to you on KLMO out of Seattle.
A: And you're moving.
M: No, I'm parked for the night. I'm a little tired here so I'm going to pull over and sleep.
A: Bless your heart. We four wheel drivers appreciate that.
M: Oh I'm sure you do. I appreciate it too — both out of trouble.
A: Anyway, what's up?
M: Well this happened back in 1978. I used to live in the South Bay area. Santa Clara county — specifically Campo, California. And well I'm not sure whether this was a dream or time travel. I think it might have been time travel because of the details that I remember from what happened but this was prior to Christmas in 1978. And I — something woke me up in the middle of the night and I sat up and I remembered everything from details. And what I remember is it seemed like I was floating above an area of San Jose that I'd never been to before. I knew where one of the roads was but I was above an intersection and I saw two cars, one of them was a blue Volkswagon and the other one was a white Buick. And I had the feeling that a friend of mine was in the blue Volkswagon and an older couple were in the white Buick. And the blue Volkswagon turned in front of the white Buick and got broadsided by the Buick. And I knew that somebody would — had died. And I knew that my friend was in the Volkswagon. And I thought that, perhaps, he was killed in the accident. And it was — a couple weeks later was Christmas holiday. And I took off and went down the coast, went down the beach and stayed on the beach for about a week. And when I'd come back, my friends asked me where I'd been for the past week and had I talked to Greg and had I seen Greg? And I said, "No." And they said, "Well Greg got hit by ("AA") — Greg was in a bad accident and he wants to talk to you. So I go to the hospital to talk to him and — now I'd told Greg about this dream prior to, you know, right after I had it. ("HOW")
A: Yeah, I was going to ask about that.
M: Yes, I'd told Greg about the dream probably two weeks before it happened. And I — and it shook me up because I don't know it it was a dream because I remember all the — so many details about it. But ("HE") he had been seriously injured and was in the hospital. And when I went to see him, he looked at me and told me that he'd never make fun of me again because that's what his reaction to what I told him was. He thought it was ridiculous and he'd never heard of such a thing.
A: Well now not only had he heard of it but he had experienced it. Yeah, I get the message there. Too bad he didn't, huh? That's a precognitive dream that you had and maybe it's missing time. I don't know. And, by the way, while I'm at it, I want to thank all the truckers. As you know or may know, my wife and I have a new RV. If you haven't seen photos of it, I did — I took some photos and put it up on the website. You can see our RV. It's pretty cool. The diesel pusher and it's about thirty-seven feet long. And getting, you know, used to driving something like that is really an interesting experience. Let me put it that way. I'm a little better at it now. But I want to thank the truckers out there. You know, I've got a CB rig in there as well as a ham rig and other rigs but I've got a CB rig in there so I can talk to the truckers. And that's exactly what I've done. You know, when you're out on the road that's a lot of help — being able to talk to the truckers. And they have been really, really nice to me. So when you're driving something like that you're sort of in a different mode and the truckers understand it. The other four-wheelers don't. They seem to want to scare you. And I'm sure with my size I scare them so it's mutual. But the truckers are incredibly helpful . . . (West) of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
Q: Hi. Good morning, Art.
A: Good morning. ("I")
Q: This is Mark in L.A.
A: Hi, Mark.
Q: I have comparatively clear understanding about my Entity interaction even though I think Spirit is a better word, perhaps. But I think I'll refer back to that November 1995 TV special entitled "Ghosts, Mediums, Psychics: Put To The Test." Did you ever see that?
A: I did not.
Q: It featured a chair moving on its own. There was a heat photography image of an alien-like head outlined in a window that the producers themselves tried to explain away. Barry Taff was the investigator on the case.
A: Oh of course (or "COURSE") — Barry, of course. Yes, I know Barry very well.
Q: And so — and then at the very end of the thirty-minute special (segment) — ("WHEN") a reporter asked the Entity—his name was Michael—to give a sign, there was a howl in the distance, which was sort of establishing a connection to the animal's subconscious or Superconscious mind. But in my case what happened with me is that I had gone ("OUT") to Oklahoma to interview the family. And they were telling me stories about — different family members — like there was a Leader that they called one of the aliens. In fact, there was a Leader Creek in the area too — talk about synchronicity. And the aliens — there were also spirit manifestations — ("BUT") they said that the aliens had said that they were from Saturn. So when I returned home from Los Angeles, phenomena was still going on and I was at a party slideshow and one of my friends said very strangely — she said that the man in the Hawaiian shirt was the tour leader. And then soon after that, another friend, Patty, mentioned that her car was a Saturn. And I really felt as if my Entity or Angel was basically teaching me how to interact with It. When I listened to the tapes —
A: At best, that's synchronicity so far.
Q: Right. So when I listened to interview tapes, I was asking the family if they'd ever experienced a missing time episode and there was EVP saying right now.
A: Right now?
Q: Yeah. The — I was ig — because I had basically —
A: That's electronic voice —
Q: — phenomena/spirit messages.
A: Uh-huh. I've done . . .
Q: And all through the tapes there were these spirit messages. In fact, I've called a few times. I've tried explaining it to Ian just a few days ago. And, in fact, tonight when Dr. Linda Honor was speaking —
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: WHEN I LISTENED TO THE EARLY PORTION OF THE SHOW AGAIN, I DISCOVERED THAT ART BELL REFERRED TO HER BY THE INITIAL 'R' WHEN I HAD THOUGHT HE SAID 'HONOR' DURING THE BROADCAST.)
Q: — when she said, "It's not a safe procedure necessarily. It has some — some potential problems," there was the word "NO" in-between "some" and "some potential problems."
A: (small laugh)
Q: Very very clear and it's something that's very —
A: What do you do? Do you sit there, record this and play it back?
Q: Yeah. I could play you that sentence right now if you like.
A: Um —
Q: Want to hear it?
A: Yeah, I do.
Q: Okay.
A: I do actually.
Q: Here it comes.
A: Yeah, let's do it.
L: (clip) . . . It's not a safe procedure necessarily. It — it has some — ("NO") some potential problems.
A: Well I don't know if I heard the "NO" in there.
Q: Well I could repeat it. Just a moment. I'll rewind it.
A: I — I didn't hear a "no."
Q: 'kay (or "K"), well I'll repeat it because —
A: I'll listen very carefully.
Q: Okay.
A: Where does it come?
Q: Right — she says, "It has some"; then there's "NO."
A: Alright.
Q: And then "some potential problems."
A: Right. Let me hear it.
L: (clip) . . . as with any medical procedure there are risks with MRI. It's not a safe procedure necessarily. It — it has some — ("NO") some potential problems.
A: No. She said "some uhh" — she did an "uhh."
Q: No, it's — it's probably not clearer because I'm playing a tape.
A: Well that — that might be it.
Q: But if you go to the archi(ve) —
A: . . . was static on your radio. Why don't you get a decent radio? CCradio —
Q: Oh no, I have a — it's very clear. It's KFI in L.A.
A: Well then why — ("IT'S JUST THAT")
Q: I have a 'cheap' tape recorder. But —
A: Oh.
Q: But ("NO") I was talking — when I — I also had taped when Chris and Mark were on, on your first night.
A: Yes. ("THEY HAD")
Q: They — constantly when they were talking there were "NO"s and I had recorded that.
A: Well I'm going to do a whole show on Electronic Voice Phenomena, sir. Thank (line disconnected) you very much for the call. You're going to definitely want to catch that. And also later today — tonight actually you're going to want to catch the special on Fox everybody. I have nothing to do with it except that I do want to see it. It says basically or it explores this whole conspiracy business about 'we never went to the moon.' You know: 'they filmed the whole thing somewhere.' And I'm really quite anxious to see if they can satisfactorily make their case. Wayne Green believes we never went to the moon. I wrote to the man — wrote to the man? — talked to the man who wrote the book and so there's been a lot of input for me lately on this subject. And I still think we went to the moon — firmly believe we went to the moon but I am interested in the case and you might want to catch it. That's tonight. Check your TV Guide on Fox. Wild card line, you're on the air. Hi.
E: Hi.
A: Hello.
E: Yes. This is Beverly from Elk Run. ("HATE")
A: Hello there, Beverly.
E: Northern California.
A: Yes.
E: I think it's KSFO.
A: Of course.
E: I have a story about a message from a dying person. My daughter had a close friend who was dying. Another friend had a small son who knew the ill woman and when he heard that she was going to heaven soon he asked our daughter to ask the dying woman if she would be his angel. And when our daughter asked the lady this, she asked the lady, "Could you be my angel too and could you give me a sign?" The friend died the next day.
A: And the sign?
E: And three days later after a memorial service when my daughter was calling a friend out of state to tell her about it, a big strange orange cat appeared in her family room she had never seen before.
A: You mean just suddenly in the house where it should not have been?
E: Right.
A: Well that's a sign alright. We'll be right back. Stay there and we'll catch the rest of the story in a second. I'm Art Bell.
Every night I hope and pray a dream lover will come my way A girl to hold in my arms and know the magic of her charms . . .
("Dream Lover" performed by Bobby Darin)
P: KFI News/Fox News. . . .
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It's written on the wind It's everywhere I go So if you really love me Come on and let it show . . .
("Written On The Wind" performed by The Four Aces)
A: It's written in the wind. On the wind actually. Good morning. We're talking about — we're talking with people who have experiences with large electrical magnetic fields: MRIs, that sort of thing, strange encounters of the time kind, close encounters of the fourth kind, anything dimensional will do, and Area 51 employees or people who have been there. I get a lot of Email from those people but not too many calls. Just every now and then do you get a call from somebody who has been an employee. They don't do a lot of talking. (commercial segue)
A: Do you want to lose ten pounds in the next month? If so, then you better listen to me closely because I'm going to tell you about a revolutionary diet . . .
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A: And into the void we jump once again. On the international line, you are on the air. Where are you calling from, please?
K: From Korea.
A: Excuse me?
K: From Korea. ("KK")
A: Korea, okay. I can hear the time lag. What part of —
K: I'm sorry about that.
A: That's quite alright. What part of Korea?
K: From Pusan right on the Southern tip.
A: Hh-hah. And how were you able to be listening to us? On the Internet?
K: Listening on the Internet. Good to have someone back that can keep the Trilateral Commission and the blue helmets at bay.
A: (small laugh) Well I don't know if we're doing that. But there you are. Speaking of blue helmets, how are things going in Korea? We hear a lot of nasty little forecasts about what might happen between the north and south.
K: Well there've been nasty forecasts but then there's also the sort of a detente sort of atmosphere but it's like 'let's be nice to each other. You first.' ("YEAH")
A: Yeah, I hear you. Well this is such a long distance call, you must have had something specific on your mind?
K: Art, about two hours ago, you had a caller that talked about seeing the being in the bar.
A: That's right. ("BB")
K: That call scared the bejesus out of me, Art. I had a very, very similar experience happen to me fourteen years ago.
A: Actually it was an Email that I read. And I did —
K: That's what it was.
A: I did the reading of it. But at the end — you're talking about the one where at the end the eyes went to blank pools of light?
K: Yes, sir. This was in my house fourteen years ago when I was living in, oddly enough, the northeastern corner of Utah . . . I was asleep. It was very, very late at night. I remember I lived in a small room. My bed was in a small room that had a — it was a basement room so the only window looked out into a window well so there was very little light coming in my room at all. Just pitch black. And I head a noise kind of like someone bouncing a wet tennis ball on concrete. That's about the best way I've been able to describe it.
A: A wet tennis ball on concrete? I can picture that. I can hear that.
K: And it's giving me goosebumps again to think about it. This is the first time I've told anyone about this since it had happened. It scared me that bad. And I heard this noise kind of getting closer to my open bedroom door. And I looked over . . . we had carpet in our basement so I have no idea what was making the sound but it was coming towards my room. And I looked out the doorway and the blackness got blacker ("IF") if that makes any sense. Just the darkness that was in the doorway got even shadowy-er.
A: Right.
K: And I saw an even darker form of a — it was a human-like form of someone wearing a 1930s fedora-style hat.
A: (small laugh)
K: And I could see its head and I looked at it, just scared to death. I sat bolt-upright in bed and that's when the eyes part of the head literally filmed over into glossy silvery light. Like you'd see from a LED flashlight kind-of-a-thing, just a glazey, silvery bright white. And a voice very quietly, disturbingly said, "I KNOW YOU."
A: (small laugh)
K: And (or "AND") — and then it disappeared.
A: Oh my. That would more than do it for me. You're sure this was not a dream? You're certain you were awake and fully conscious and all that?
K: I was wide-awake. I was definitely wide-awake and fully conscious and I did not sleep in that room again ever. I spent the next six months out in my hammock and tent in the backyard of my parents' house where I was at the time. . . .
A: I don't blame you a bit. Now somebody must've asked you why you did that? Did you tell the story?
K: I just said it's summer, it's — we're up here in the Rockies, it's beautiful, I'd like to spend the summer in the tent in the backyard.
A: (small laugh) Wise choice.
K: And nobody questioned me and I have not told that story to anyone and it's just as creepy now as it was then.
A: Boy, I sure appreciate your reaching out over this many miles to tell it. And plus —
K: I was saving it for "Ghost to Ghost" but —
A: Plus it — this must —
K: That one freaked me out.
A: — it must be daylight over there anyway right now.
K: It is 7:40 p.m.
A: 7:40 p.m. Korea. Alright well listen my friend —
K: With black driving wind and rain.
A: —driving wind and rain.
K: Alright, sir, thank you.
A: Alright, you take care. All the way from Korea. Whew. That's quite a call. ("BUT") Quite a story as well. Yeah, I don't — I wouldn't like that at all. First time caller line, you're on the air. Hello. Hello?
T: Hi.
A: Yes. You're on the air.
T: This is Travis from Casino, Wisconsin.
A: Yes, Travis.
T: That's about fifty miles north of Green Bay so you'll get like an idea of where that is.
A: I have a real good idea of where that is. Sure.
T: Okay, so this happened to me in the summer of '99. My cousin was always telling me about this mound that she went to like way back in the woods on this logging road.
A: Yes?
T: So whenever she stood on it, she'd get like this chill. A really bad chill. Like she totally froze up because it was like — it's almost like there was a spirit there.
A: The spirit in the mound?
T: Yeah, and I think that because there might be this dead girl buried under there because they never found the body —
A: Oh you mean that kind of a mound?
T: Yeah, because someone was murdered up here.
A: Well has anybody sought to dig?
T: No, because we never told anyone about it. So I knew her and her friend that lives like right down the road from her.
A: Yes?
T: We all live like within a mile away from each other . . . . (end of tape side) . . . It was like in the evening before it was dark. And we were just checking it out so I stood on it. And I did not feel anything. I wasn't even scared. And then we like just kept standing there for a long time. And then we like — trying to dig — like dig with sticks to see if there was anything under there. And we found this old bottle. It was like a 1940 or 1950 beer bottle. One of those brown ones with a handle on it. So I took that bottle back with me because I was going to keep it for a souvenir. I found that it'd be worth something. And on the way back this bird came out of nowhere. It just flew up. It was like acting all crazy.
A: What flew up out of nowhere?
T: A bird.
A: A bird.
T: It was weird. It just came out of nowhere and it was flying all over right from the path on the way back on my dirt bike on the logging road. And then that spooked us a little. And then we took another road to get back and we heard like this loud brush cracking so we thought that was a bear. Then that really scared us. So then she floored that dirt bike like up to sixty.
A: Yeah?
T: And then we got to her house and (or "AND") — and her friend was over there. It was like around nine o'clock.
A: And?
T: We were like just hanging out, just standing around outside talking and all of a sudden I heard a voice from behind the barn. It was saying, "HERE KITTY KITTY." And our friend just thought it was her mom but it wasn't.
A: Who was it?
T: Huh?
A: Who was it?
T: It was a — I don't know. It was like a ghost or something because nobody was out there but us. And everyone else was sleeping.
A: So it probably all centered around this thing — this bottle you dug up?
T: Yeah. It's almost like the bottle was a relic or something.
A: And you brought it back with you?
T: It — yeah. Like it had a spirit with it or something connected to it.
A: Yep. Where is it now?
T: So, okay, the bottle was like sitting in my cousin's room when all this was going on because we brought it in earlier. Then we just decided to take a ride up the road about twelve miles. And then on the way on that right it's like the lights just turned on bright automatically by themselves because I had it on dim.
A: (small laugh) Yes?
T: And then we got to this town called Stirring and so then we just like turned around and came back. Then all of a sudden on the way back we found like this fresh roadkill. It was like a bloody mess of something. I couldn't tell what it was. It was probably an animal.
A: In other words, signs all around you. At this point you were still holding on to this bottle?
T: No —yeah. The bottle — it's still at home but we don't have it with us.
A: I see. Okay.
T: It's at my cousin's house in an opened up bag.
A: Well obviously you're marked at this point. Yes.
T: So then we're at the — so when we got home — well actually before we got home, like a mile up the road we just see her cat come out of nowhere. It just comes — like starts walking towards the road.
A: Okay, I'm about out of time. Is there a bottom line to this story?
T: Okay, the bottom line is that people should like stay away from —
A: Spirit bottles.
T: Yeah. Like don't pick up any like that might be — have anything to do with spirit because I know there's definitely a spirit at that mound.
A: Alright. Well, you know, there are spirits that normally come in a bottle and some that don't so normally come. East of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
G: Hello.
A: Hello.
G: Yes. I'm calling from Virginia Beach.
A: Virginia Beach.
G: Yes. And I've got a story for you. My father — he's dead now but he was a World War II/Korea/Vietnam veteran — old school navy. And after he retired in the late '60s he went to work with the CIA/DIA.
A: Yes.
G: And I don't know if you ever heard of him but Commander Richard Marsenko of Seal Team Six. And —
A: You know, somehow that's a familiar name.
G: Yes, he dealt with — it was classified top secret by the navy, (Vanish?) by the Department of Defense but it was a Red Sail program created under the Reagan administration.
A: Yes?
G: In the '80s and it was — it ended in the '90s. He ended up in jail, whatnot, but it was a top secret group.
A: Why did he end up in jail?
G: Well the government went after him. They tried to get him for a lot — it was actually a headhunters group but they could only get him on other charges that dealt with abuse of money, etc. But I do have a plant on my left leg. It's like a chip or whatever and —
A: You've been implanted?
G: Yes, I have. And a lot of these people that they think are aliens, they're demonized humans.
A: So you think you've been implanted by a demonized human?
G: Yeah, but it's those people with the dark glasses and all that work for the CIA. They're actually — there's —
A: So they're just — they may not exactly be demonized. They may be just like evil humans.
G: If you've ever heard of the New World Order, it's a special top secret order that —
A: That what?
G: — has to deal with —
A: Wants to take over the world?
G: — taking over the world.
A: Yeah. Take over the world.
G: And it's not really aliens.
A: And George Bush knows about it as well as that? Right?
G: I have no idea.
A: Oh sure you do. You remember when George Bush talked about the New World Order? Don't you?
G: Yep.
A: You do remember? So if George Bush knows —
G: And I've also witnessed —
A: — then his son knows too, doesn't he?
G: Yeah.
A: And who's his son? None other than the current President of the United States.
G: Well it's —
A: And if that's not enough —
G: Yeah, I've witnessed this stuff. I mean I'm surprised I'm alive. I believe in guardian angels but I know that they do — I've seen a top secret weapon that they have. I've seen a Huey helicopter appear out of the sky.
A: They're not really top secret.
G: It's — that porthole that you were talking about. I witnessed it. A friend and I — we snuck out of our house one early morning. It was during Desert Storm and we were looking over the water and we started seeing heat flashing and then all of a sudden a static charge and there it came. A Huey helicopter appeared out of the sky, circled around over Broadbay and headed back toward Little Creek.
A: Well that'd do it for you, alright. Well there you have it — a strong believer in the New World Order. You know darn well he knew exactly what George Bush said. Just leave me alone. West of the Rockies, you're on the air. Good morning.
O: Hello?
A: Hello.
O: Oh. My name's Albert. I'm in Tacoma.
A: Albert? Alright.
O: Yeah. Back in '97 —
A: Albert, don't — you're dialing there.
O: Oh, that happens with this phone I guess. This happened once during a radio program over this phone.
A: You're pulsing me, Albert.
O: Oh. Well gosh darn it.
A: I can't handle it, Albert.
O: Yeah . . .
A: I'm going to have to move on. First-time caller line, you're on the air.
D: Art?
A: Yes?
D: I don't know what this would go under. This — oh well by the way this is Lee from Denison, Texas.
A: Yes, Lee?
D: I don't know — I think this is more for "Ghost to Ghost" —
A: No, we're not telling ghost stories tonight even though we've had a couple. I'm trying to avoid that. You know, we're sort staying within the limits of electro-magnetic radiation, time stories, encounters with aliens —
D: I don't know if this — I just want to say I don't know if this would be dimensional because it's not like —
A: Well you might slip it under the dimensional label. Let's hear it.
D: Okay. I was like at my aunt's house, you know? And, you know, I was by myself, right? And what had happened, I was sitting in the chair and I was smoking a cigarette and the ashtray on the arm of the chair, right?
A: Yeah.
D: So I get up to go to the bathroom. Now I don't know if this would be missing time and I swear to you I did not do this. I came back from the bathroom and the ashtray was clear across the room on the other end table at the end of the couch. Now I don't know if this would be missing time —
A: Was there anybody else in the house?
D: No, I was alone. They had went to Opalocka for Valentine's Day. And I tell you, it was enough to —
A: Are you talking about something that just happened?
D: No, this was just before I came to Texas. This was like in —
A: Oh I see. Okay, well I mean, after all, it was Valentine's Day, right? So —
D: Yeah, I mean — yeah, this was about '94.
A: So this would be the anniversary?
D: Right.
A: Okay.
D: I don't know if this would be under missing time but I do know that I don't know how long it was I was in there or what happened but all I know is I came back and it wasn't on the table beside me, it was clear across the room on the table next to the lamp. Clear across the room in front of me.
A: So what do you think happened?
D: What do I think happened? Well I don't want to take up a lot of your time . . .
A: Well it's worth asking. I mean we got the story. What do you think happened? Time went by, the ashtray moved by itself, what?
D: Okay, well I personally think that time went by because the reason I say that is because I don't remember moving it or I don't — I mean all I remember is getting up to, you know like say, go to the restroom, and I don't remember anything else. I just came back and it was as if it had been there and I know good and well . . .
A: Well I mean did anything else happen? Like did you have a little beard growth you didn't have before or some way to know that time passed?
D: No. No, I didn't.
A: Well I —
D: I feel I was kind of dazed. I mean like I couldn't remember. You know, I remember walking back there and back but I don't remember — I don't know. Now, like I say, I was alone and . . .
A: Well the one thing I'd worry about is burning down your house. I mean if the ashtray moved, there could've been a cigarette in it. Think what could've happened.
D: Well I had put it out. I remember that.
A: Yeah, I know but since the ashtrays move, that means somebody — you or somebody else smoked another one. They had some need of an ashtray anyway.
D: It must've been somebody else. (small laugh)
A: (small laugh) Well fire safety, sir, at all times. Wild card line (dial tone) — you would've been on the air. East of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hello?
S: Good evening or it's morning now, isn't it, Art?
A: It is and we don't have a lot of time so —
S: My name is Sandra. I'm calling from Illinois.
A: Hi, Sandra.
S: I have a pathology report that proves that I at one time had two brains.
A: That you had two brains?
S: Yes, sir. I found out — I actually broke a Guinness World Book of Records by containing my own twin inside of me for eighteen years.
A: You're kidding?
S: No, I'm not.
A: Oh Sandra you should've called earlier.
S: Oh sir, I've been home with four unexpected children and without a phone and without communications with the outside world for many, many years.
A: Well what happened to your other brain?
S: Well it's in the other side. It was removed by a surgeon and dissected and sent wherever they put the actual material. But as far as its ether. I have a pretty good idea. And —
A: So this was actually extracted from you in surgery?
S: Right. It also contained bone and skin and hair cells that continued to develop and divide within me.
A: Boy, some people have alter egos but that's really stretching it.
S: Oh sir, I'm trembling inside with my heart beating — can't believe I'm actually speaking to Art —
A: You just only —
S: — who helps us understand that what is, is right.
A: You only have one heart, right?
S: Yes.
A: Okay.
S: Okay.
A: Alright, well listen, you should've called me earlier in the show.
S: I wish I could. I sit here on redial just — I can't —
A: I mean if you were Rush Limbaugh, you could take half your brain, put it behind you and still have a full brain.
S: Well I have it in black and white and there's me here —
A: Send me — look. Send me some information. Email it to me, mail it to me — something.
S: I'll do my best to —
A: I'd like to read about what happened to you.
S: I'm easier going out the window than I am doors but I'll do my best.
A: (small laugh) We'll leave it on that note. Alright, Dr. David Anderson and before him Richard Hoagland tomorrow night. I'm Art Bell. Night all.
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So I'm sending Art some Email following my call. It's three a.m. at the moment. And my Email says: ( . . . )
Q: Well I've been tinkering with it. It's now 3:24. "Subject: This Morning's Call." Mailed to artbell@aol.com:
( . . . )
A: (off the air during commercials) Hi there, do you have a story for us?
Q: (off air) Yes, I do.
A: (off air) Pretty good one?
Q: (off air) It's very good. ("ONE")
A: (off air) Hold tight. (commercials follow)
A: Alright, back into that dark night and the phone lines. Here we go. First time caller line, you're on the air. Cheerio.
F: Hi Art.
A: Hello there.
F: Can you hear me alright? You said you couldn't hear me earlier.
A: Boy, you sound — hold on and let's see if I can straighten this out. Try it again.
F: Can you — how —that better?
A: No, you are totally distorted and ripped up and torn apart.
F: Is that any better?
A: Oh that's much better.
F: I'm sorry. I had an earpiece and I was driving. Well I have two things for you Art. One: last year I was driving — I think it was last year. I just — when you were talking about losing time, I kind of uncovered this memory. I drive a truck and I was driving back from Illinois and I remember looking — I was kind of groggy, a little tired. I remember looking out the window. Something caught my eye.
A: You mean a big eighteen-wheeler?
F: Right. I drive a tanker full of petroleum.
A: Uh-huh. Oh a tanker?
F: Right.
A: Oh we really love to hear about groggy tanker drivers. Okay.
F: (small laugh) Well I wasn't sleepy. I was just a little groggy, kind of daydreaming.
A: Uh-huh.
F: Anyway, I was coming back from Illinois going towards Indianapolis. I'm calling from Indianapolis.
A: Right.
F: And something caught my eye. The next thing I know I'm standing — or not standing. I'm beside the road at an off-ramp . . . back on my . . .
A: Uh-oh, you're breaking up again.
F: Oh no.
A: They know you're telling this story and they're breaking you up.
F: Is that better, Art?
A: That's better.
F: Okay, anyway —
A: Don't move. Just stay right where you are.
F: I had — didn't move the last time. Anyways, I'm driving and I see something out of the corner of my eye. Next thing I know I'm on an off-ramp and I'm sitting on my sleeper. I feel like I just woke up and three hours had just elapsed.
A: (small laugh) Oh lordy.
F: I had — where was I coming from? I have no idea. Another thing — I saw an entity last year, a rather frightening entity.
A: Oh?
F: It entered my house and walked down my hallway and walked between my children's room. And, as I went to go after him, my wife told me not to . . .
A: Meaning she must've seen it too.
F: She did see it. Well the thing is — the first time I'd ever seen it. It scared me to death. And I asked her afterwards what it was I saw and she described to me exactly —
A: What you saw.
F: — what I saw and she didn't see it.
A: Well ask me how happy I am about hearing you just driving this big tanker and then suddenly ending up in a rest area, waken up I suppose, huh?
F: No, I wasn't waking up. That's the thing. It just — ("E") here's the difference. I know when I get tired and when I pull over and that's not what happened. I just — I lost three hours and where it went I don't know. I wasn't asleep.
A: I bet that scared the hell out of you.
F: It scared the shit out of me. I'm sorry.
A: No, I can't let you say that word on the air.
F: I'm sorry. I —
A: That's one of the few words that George Carlin said definitively you cannot say on the air. But I understand what it scared out of you and so does everybody else. ("YES") I appreciate the call, sir. Thank you. Oh God. A tanker truck yet. That would be a very serious loss of time. I bet he didn't tell the boss about that one. Wild card line, you're on the air. Hi.
C: Hey good morning and good night. It's still night here in Honolulu, Hawaii. This is Chris. I'm listening at you from KHVH and — close proximity to 19/45, the planetary hot spot.
[TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: A CONVERSATION FOLLOWED THAT INCLUDED THE CALLER SAYING ". . . we're in nine planet alignment now and it's probably going to be this year will be the year that California's going to be shaken up quite a bit."]
A: My MRI, sir, thank you very much, was my back. So I suppose they were not irradiating my head. Now I've had some pretty abby-normal experiences with my back but nothing paranormal. East of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
B: Hi.
A: Hello.
B: My goodness, you get nervous as —
A: Where in the world are you?
B: I'm in Lubbock, Texas.
[TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: THE CALLER DESCRIBED AN INCIDENT WHILE CLEANING A RABBIT'S CAGE: "And a little furry ball rolls over my hand . . . Maybe the size of a nice-size lime . . . And I tried to close my fingers around it to see what it was but then it just — whittt. It was gone . . . I just thought, 'What are you?' It said, 'Well I'm a furry ball' . . . And I'm just as serious as I can be." ALSO DISCUSSED WAS AN HOUR-LONG MRI SESSION THAT SEEMED TO BE OVER IN A MINUTE AND A HALF.]
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: THE BUMPER MUSIC HEARD ON THE AIR WAS FOLLOWED BY OTHER SONGS WHILE I WAS ON HOLD THROUGH THE BREAK.)
A very old friend came by today 'Cause he was telling everyone in town Of the love that he just found And Marie's the name of his latest flame
He talked and talked and I heard him say That she had the longest blackest hair The prettiest green eyes anywhere And Marie's the name of his latest flame
Though I smiled the tears inside were a-burning I wished him luck and then he said goodbye He was gone but still his words kept returning What else was there for me to do but cry?
Would you believe that yesterday This girl was in my arms and swore to me She'd be mine eternally And Marie's the name of his latest flame . . .
("His Latest Flame" performed by Elvis Presley)
Mississippi in the middle of a dry spell Jimmy Rogers on the Victrola up high Mama's dancing baby on a shoulder The sun is setting like molasses in the sky The boy could sing, knew how to move, everything Always wanting more, he'd leave you longing for
Black velvet and that little boy smile Black velvet with that slow southern style A new religion that'll bring ya to your knees Black velvet if you please . . .
("Black Velvet" performed by Alannah Myles)
( . . . )
. . . Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Me loving him is just too slim yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Heartache ooh I get 'em every every day (Nothing but a heartache) Tears pouring all down my face (Nothing but a tear drop) Ooh the man has got me so uptight
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Loving that guy is such a sin yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) To witness that I just can't win yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
I got a lot of those heartaches I got a lot of those tear drops Heartaches Tear drops All of the way Nothing but a heartache every day . . .
("Nothing But A Heartache" performed by The Flirtations)
A: (off air) Alright everybody we're at break. We're about thirty seconds from a real startup here so everybody sit tight. Let me push this button and stop the girls and cue the girls and get them ready to go here for "Coast To Coast AM" or "Tales From The Crypt," depending on your point of view. G minus ten.
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) Loving that guy is such a sin yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
Nothing but a heartache every day (Nothing but a heartache) I let a tear drop all of the way (Nothing but a tear drop) To witness that I just can't win yeah He's got me Oh why can't I get him?
I got a lot of those heartaches I got a lot of those tear drops Heartaches Tear drops All of the way . . .
R: Want to take a ride? Call Art Bell from west of the Rockies at (gives number); east of the Rockies at (gives number); first-time callers may reach Art at (gives number); or call the wild card line at (gives number). To talk with Art on the toll-free international line, call your AT&T operator and have them dial (gives number). This is "Coast to Coast AM" with Art Bell.
A: Well "Coast To Coast AM" is more like "Tales From the Crypt" here. Good evening everybody. We're really into it. All kinds of strange stories: MRIs, big electro-magnetic fields, strange encounters of the time kind, close encounters of the fourth kind, conventional stories and, of course as always welcome here, Area 51 callers. Boy, these girls, they — they really can belt it out, can't they? Anyway, onward. (commercial segue)
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A: "Tales From The Crypt." (small laugh) Good morning, everybody. I'm Art Bell. Listen, tomorrow night in the first hour Richard C. Hoagland and he's got a lot of news for you. In the second hour, it's going to be a remarkable man that I guess I did a show or two with him before leaving. His name is Dr. David Anderson. He works for the Time Travel Research Center And Association. He's a real scientist with a real lab kind of secret that's working on time travel and they've actually achieved the beginnings of time travel. This is a serious fellow and he has a lot to say. And so we'll talk about one of my favorite topics tomorrow night. Time travel. The guy is something else. Dr. David Anderson. Okay, let's see where to go. How about the international line. You're on the air. Hi.
V: Hi there. Is that me, Art?
A: That's you.
V: Okay. I was traveling at nighttime on Highway 5 coming southwest out of Jasper when I — at nighttime around midnight.
A: Where are you now, by the way?
V: Victoria, B.C.
A: Victoria, B.C. Alright. Are — so there you are on 5.
V: Yeah. And that's in the interior. Just as you've taken off from Highway 16 out of Jasper and you branch off onto Highway 5. And I was traveling alone. It was around midnight. It was a wintery night, the end of December of 1981. And — traveling by myself — ("N") very little traffic around. I was practically the only one on the highway. And I was traveling over quite a long bridge which had a slight little turn in it at the end. And before I reached the end of the bridge I would be about two-thirds way over the bridge now — quite a long bridge. And I could see on my left hand side something dark moving towards me. And so I brought my car to a stop right on the bridge and I didn't dare approach any closer to it because it was coming in my direction.
A: Well what did it look like? Did it look like a car? A mass of —
V: Oh no, it was a living being.
A: A being?
V: It was not an automobile.
A: Okay.
V: It was huge. I'd say — well it was dark, black. If you can see it (when) you're driving in the mountains on a winter night with white snow everywhere —
A: Oh I can. I can.
V: Yes, and it is almost like being in a moonlit night. ("IT") So I could see but it would be like the moonlight would be behind the beings there. What was a very, very tall — I presume that would be the male. I'd say eight to night feet tall. Dark.
A: A male what?
V: A Sasquatch.
A: A Sasquatch — bigfoot?
V: Yes. And I couldn't see the facial features but I could see the form because it was so black.
A: Oh my God, so here you are stuck in the snow on a bridge stopped with a big Sasquatch coming at you?
V: Exactly.
A: Great.
V: And I'd say it would be several hundreds of feet down from me before it had ever come near the bridge. But I came to a total stop right on the bridge and with him was a lesser, lower — not as tall person or being. And I'd say she would be — I presume that would be the mother.
A: This is lunch?
V: She'd be about a head less ("IAN") in height.
A: Right. ("ABOUT")
V: A young one about three feet tall.
A: Mini-squatch.
V: Exactly. And they were walking along in the direction towards me. I was so terribly frightened I didn't know what to do. I was only driving a little Honda which they could've opened that up like a sardine can.
A: Maybe they were out for an evening meal?
V: (small laugh) Exactly. So I stayed where I was and I — I believe I even turned my lights off so that they wouldn't think that I was aggressive at all, anyway. But I could still see them coming and approaching towards —
A: In other words, why call attention to yourself, right?
V: Yes. So they certainly knew that I was there but I wanted them to know that I — ("NO") I had no ill will towards them and whatever their business was I was certainly not going to interfere. ("PRINCE") And as they approached the bridge — I'd say about fifty feet before they got to the bridge they made a sharp right hand turn. There were great big tall snow banks on either side. They went immediately, turned right and went up over the snowbank and up the hill. And the young little one had a problem getting up over the snowbank and the parent, the father, just reached his hand below the little bum of this little one, the young one, and gave him a little boost up over the snow bank.
A: Wow.
V: And they walked totally upright. There was not a hunch. And grizzly bear — they say. "Oh well, a grizzly bear." Grizzly bear do not stay with the mother ("AND") and the baby because she won't permit it.
A: That's right.
V: They don't walk upright that length of ("R") space. ("COME")
A: Did you hear any noise or smell any smell?
V: No. I've been asked that before. But it was a crisp, cold wintery evening where — it's sort of like refrigeration keeps — it's not like summer time where smells would be more obvious.
A: Right.
V: So the air was crisp and clean and no, I didn't notice that at all. But when I could see that they had went right up over the bank and up the side of the mountain. Then I knew that they were ("YOU KNOW") their intention was not going to be aggression against me. And so then I inched my way along the bridge. As soon as I knew that they were up over the snowbank and going up the side of the mountain or the little hill there. ("GET") And I approached very slowly. And by the time I got to the place where they had gone over the snowbank, they were already ("THEY NEED") thirty feet already up the hill where the treeline was. So I knew that they — they knew I was not aggressive towards them. They knew I was ("NOT") — I knew they were not aggressive towards me.
A: But you have seen an entire Sasquatch family?
V: Entire family. Entire family but I want to tell you more what I did. As soon as I knew and I got past the place where they had went up the hill, I went ("NO") twenty-five to fifty feet ahead and I thought, "This is an opportunity of a lifetime." So I spun my car around and turned it right toward the bank, put my headlights on high beam and shown it up the hill. (small laugh) I'm quite adventurous, I guess.
A: And?
V: But by that time they were in the tree line and there was nothing. I couldn't see them. But I — just ho(ped) (or "JUST HO") —
A: You're lucky they didn't come down and beat the hell out of you for not dimming.
V: (laughs) Well not only that — I've got laryngitis. I'm sorry, Art, I sound so terrible.
A: That's alright. That's — ("THEY LIVE AMONGST US")
V: But I want to tell you what I did. I stopped at the nearest community which was about twenty miles down the road. And I decided to stay there overnight because I was going to go back to the spot and see it in the daytime to see what kind of footprints. And I've been asked this question before: "Were there claws?" No, there weren't claws. "What size was the male foot?" I'd say about a size 12 times two, at least.
A: (small laugh) ("M[ALE]")
V: That's the male. And then the mother —
A: A good 24.
V: She walked along at the side. You could see the footprints of the baby. ("AND") Three separate beings went up that hill and I went back there the next day. I didn't have a camera. But I went there right up to the place where it was. I went over a little embankment of snow and started to go up the little hill. And I was walking on the surface of the snow. And the footprints had sunk way down about two feet into the snow.
A: Well that's one whale of a tale. And you swear —
V: Ohhh —
A: — you swear its true, right?
V: On the Bible I'd swear it was true.
A: Alright. Then sold. Thank you very much for the call. On the Bible. That gives me (or "THAT GIVES ME") — family. First-time caller line, you're on the air. Hi.
M: Hello. Is that me, Art?
A: Well only you know that for sure. Maybe you and your hairdresser. Yeah.
M: (small laugh) ("YOU") Okay, this is Mike. I'm another truck driver. I've been a local — faithful listener for a long time.
A: Yes sir. And where are you?
M: I'm currently near Wheat, California and I'm listening to you on KLMO out of Seattle.
A: And you're moving.
M: No, I'm parked for the night. I'm a little tired here so I'm going to pull over and sleep.
A: Bless your heart. We four wheel drivers appreciate that.
M: Oh I'm sure you do. I appreciate it too — both out of trouble.
A: Anyway, what's up?
M: Well this happened back in 1978. I used to live in the South Bay area. Santa Clara county — specifically Campo, California. And well I'm not sure whether this was a dream or time travel. I think it might have been time travel because of the details that I remember from what happened but this was prior to Christmas in 1978. And I — something woke me up in the middle of the night and I sat up and I remembered everything from details. And what I remember is it seemed like I was floating above an area of San Jose that I'd never been to before. I knew where one of the roads was but I was above an intersection and I saw two cars, one of them was a blue Volkswagon and the other one was a white Buick. And I had the feeling that a friend of mine was in the blue Volkswagon and an older couple were in the white Buick. And the blue Volkswagon turned in front of the white Buick and got broadsided by the Buick. And I knew that somebody would — had died. And I knew that my friend was in the Volkswagon. And I thought that, perhaps, he was killed in the accident. And it was — a couple weeks later was Christmas holiday. And I took off and went down the coast, went down the beach and stayed on the beach for about a week. And when I'd come back, my friends asked me where I'd been for the past week and had I talked to Greg and had I seen Greg? And I said, "No." And they said, "Well Greg got hit by ("AA") — Greg was in a bad accident and he wants to talk to you. So I go to the hospital to talk to him and — now I'd told Greg about this dream prior to, you know, right after I had it. ("HOW")
A: Yeah, I was going to ask about that.
M: Yes, I'd told Greg about the dream probably two weeks before it happened. And I — and it shook me up because I don't know it it was a dream because I remember all the — so many details about it. But ("HE") he had been seriously injured and was in the hospital. And when I went to see him, he looked at me and told me that he'd never make fun of me again because that's what his reaction to what I told him was. He thought it was ridiculous and he'd never heard of such a thing.
A: Well now not only had he heard of it but he had experienced it. Yeah, I get the message there. Too bad he didn't, huh? That's a precognitive dream that you had and maybe it's missing time. I don't know. And, by the way, while I'm at it, I want to thank all the truckers. As you know or may know, my wife and I have a new RV. If you haven't seen photos of it, I did — I took some photos and put it up on the website. You can see our RV. It's pretty cool. The diesel pusher and it's about thirty-seven feet long. And getting, you know, used to driving something like that is really an interesting experience. Let me put it that way. I'm a little better at it now. But I want to thank the truckers out there. You know, I've got a CB rig in there as well as a ham rig and other rigs but I've got a CB rig in there so I can talk to the truckers. And that's exactly what I've done. You know, when you're out on the road that's a lot of help — being able to talk to the truckers. And they have been really, really nice to me. So when you're driving something like that you're sort of in a different mode and the truckers understand it. The other four-wheelers don't. They seem to want to scare you. And I'm sure with my size I scare them so it's mutual. But the truckers are incredibly helpful . . . (West) of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
Q: Hi. Good morning, Art.
A: Good morning. ("I")
Q: This is Mark in L.A.
A: Hi, Mark.
Q: I have comparatively clear understanding about my Entity interaction even though I think Spirit is a better word, perhaps. But I think I'll refer back to that November 1995 TV special entitled "Ghosts, Mediums, Psychics: Put To The Test." Did you ever see that?
A: I did not.
Q: It featured a chair moving on its own. There was a heat photography image of an alien-like head outlined in a window that the producers themselves tried to explain away. Barry Taff was the investigator on the case.
A: Oh of course (or "COURSE") — Barry, of course. Yes, I know Barry very well.
Q: And so — and then at the very end of the thirty-minute special (segment) — ("WHEN") a reporter asked the Entity—his name was Michael—to give a sign, there was a howl in the distance, which was sort of establishing a connection to the animal's subconscious or Superconscious mind. But in my case what happened with me is that I had gone ("OUT") to Oklahoma to interview the family. And they were telling me stories about — different family members — like there was a Leader that they called one of the aliens. In fact, there was a Leader Creek in the area too — talk about synchronicity. And the aliens — there were also spirit manifestations — ("BUT") they said that the aliens had said that they were from Saturn. So when I returned home from Los Angeles, phenomena was still going on and I was at a party slideshow and one of my friends said very strangely — she said that the man in the Hawaiian shirt was the tour leader. And then soon after that, another friend, Patty, mentioned that her car was a Saturn. And I really felt as if my Entity or Angel was basically teaching me how to interact with It. When I listened to the tapes —
A: At best, that's synchronicity so far.
Q: Right. So when I listened to interview tapes, I was asking the family if they'd ever experienced a missing time episode and there was EVP saying right now.
A: Right now?
Q: Yeah. The — I was ig — because I had basically —
A: That's electronic voice —
Q: — phenomena/spirit messages.
A: Uh-huh. I've done . . .
Q: And all through the tapes there were these spirit messages. In fact, I've called a few times. I've tried explaining it to Ian just a few days ago. And, in fact, tonight when Dr. Linda Honor was speaking —
(TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: WHEN I LISTENED TO THE EARLY PORTION OF THE SHOW AGAIN, I DISCOVERED THAT ART BELL REFERRED TO HER BY THE INITIAL 'R' WHEN I HAD THOUGHT HE SAID 'HONOR' DURING THE BROADCAST.)
Q: — when she said, "It's not a safe procedure necessarily. It has some — some potential problems," there was the word "NO" in-between "some" and "some potential problems."
A: (small laugh)
Q: Very very clear and it's something that's very —
A: What do you do? Do you sit there, record this and play it back?
Q: Yeah. I could play you that sentence right now if you like.
A: Um —
Q: Want to hear it?
A: Yeah, I do.
Q: Okay.
A: I do actually.
Q: Here it comes.
A: Yeah, let's do it.
L: (clip) . . . It's not a safe procedure necessarily. It — it has some — ("NO") some potential problems.
A: Well I don't know if I heard the "NO" in there.
Q: Well I could repeat it. Just a moment. I'll rewind it.
A: I — I didn't hear a "no."
Q: 'kay (or "K"), well I'll repeat it because —
A: I'll listen very carefully.
Q: Okay.
A: Where does it come?
Q: Right — she says, "It has some"; then there's "NO."
A: Alright.
Q: And then "some potential problems."
A: Right. Let me hear it.
L: (clip) . . . as with any medical procedure there are risks with MRI. It's not a safe procedure necessarily. It — it has some — ("NO") some potential problems.
A: No. She said "some uhh" — she did an "uhh."
Q: No, it's — it's probably not clearer because I'm playing a tape.
A: Well that — that might be it.
Q: But if you go to the archi(ve) —
A: . . . was static on your radio. Why don't you get a decent radio? CCradio —
Q: Oh no, I have a — it's very clear. It's KFI in L.A.
A: Well then why — ("IT'S JUST THAT")
Q: I have a 'cheap' tape recorder. But —
A: Oh.
Q: But ("NO") I was talking — when I — I also had taped when Chris and Mark were on, on your first night.
A: Yes. ("THEY HAD")
Q: They — constantly when they were talking there were "NO"s and I had recorded that.
A: Well I'm going to do a whole show on Electronic Voice Phenomena, sir. Thank (line disconnected) you very much for the call. You're going to definitely want to catch that. And also later today — tonight actually you're going to want to catch the special on Fox everybody. I have nothing to do with it except that I do want to see it. It says basically or it explores this whole conspiracy business about 'we never went to the moon.' You know: 'they filmed the whole thing somewhere.' And I'm really quite anxious to see if they can satisfactorily make their case. Wayne Green believes we never went to the moon. I wrote to the man — wrote to the man? — talked to the man who wrote the book and so there's been a lot of input for me lately on this subject. And I still think we went to the moon — firmly believe we went to the moon but I am interested in the case and you might want to catch it. That's tonight. Check your TV Guide on Fox. Wild card line, you're on the air. Hi.
E: Hi.
A: Hello.
E: Yes. This is Beverly from Elk Run. ("HATE")
A: Hello there, Beverly.
E: Northern California.
A: Yes.
E: I think it's KSFO.
A: Of course.
E: I have a story about a message from a dying person. My daughter had a close friend who was dying. Another friend had a small son who knew the ill woman and when he heard that she was going to heaven soon he asked our daughter to ask the dying woman if she would be his angel. And when our daughter asked the lady this, she asked the lady, "Could you be my angel too and could you give me a sign?" The friend died the next day.
A: And the sign?
E: And three days later after a memorial service when my daughter was calling a friend out of state to tell her about it, a big strange orange cat appeared in her family room she had never seen before.
A: You mean just suddenly in the house where it should not have been?
E: Right.
A: Well that's a sign alright. We'll be right back. Stay there and we'll catch the rest of the story in a second. I'm Art Bell.
Every night I hope and pray a dream lover will come my way A girl to hold in my arms and know the magic of her charms . . .
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A: And into the void we jump once again. On the international line, you are on the air. Where are you calling from, please?
K: From Korea.
A: Excuse me?
K: From Korea. ("KK")
A: Korea, okay. I can hear the time lag. What part of —
K: I'm sorry about that.
A: That's quite alright. What part of Korea?
K: From Pusan right on the Southern tip.
A: Hh-hah. And how were you able to be listening to us? On the Internet?
K: Listening on the Internet. Good to have someone back that can keep the Trilateral Commission and the blue helmets at bay.
A: (small laugh) Well I don't know if we're doing that. But there you are. Speaking of blue helmets, how are things going in Korea? We hear a lot of nasty little forecasts about what might happen between the north and south.
K: Well there've been nasty forecasts but then there's also the sort of a detente sort of atmosphere but it's like 'let's be nice to each other. You first.' ("YEAH")
A: Yeah, I hear you. Well this is such a long distance call, you must have had something specific on your mind?
K: Art, about two hours ago, you had a caller that talked about seeing the being in the bar.
A: That's right. ("BB")
K: That call scared the bejesus out of me, Art. I had a very, very similar experience happen to me fourteen years ago.
A: Actually it was an Email that I read. And I did —
K: That's what it was.
A: I did the reading of it. But at the end — you're talking about the one where at the end the eyes went to blank pools of light?
K: Yes, sir. This was in my house fourteen years ago when I was living in, oddly enough, the northeastern corner of Utah . . . I was asleep. It was very, very late at night. I remember I lived in a small room. My bed was in a small room that had a — it was a basement room so the only window looked out into a window well so there was very little light coming in my room at all. Just pitch black. And I head a noise kind of like someone bouncing a wet tennis ball on concrete. That's about the best way I've been able to describe it.
A: A wet tennis ball on concrete? I can picture that. I can hear that.
K: And it's giving me goosebumps again to think about it. This is the first time I've told anyone about this since it had happened. It scared me that bad. And I heard this noise kind of getting closer to my open bedroom door. And I looked over . . . we had carpet in our basement so I have no idea what was making the sound but it was coming towards my room. And I looked out the doorway and the blackness got blacker ("IF") if that makes any sense. Just the darkness that was in the doorway got even shadowy-er.
A: Right.
K: And I saw an even darker form of a — it was a human-like form of someone wearing a 1930s fedora-style hat.
A: (small laugh)
K: And I could see its head and I looked at it, just scared to death. I sat bolt-upright in bed and that's when the eyes part of the head literally filmed over into glossy silvery light. Like you'd see from a LED flashlight kind-of-a-thing, just a glazey, silvery bright white. And a voice very quietly, disturbingly said, "I KNOW YOU."
A: (small laugh)
K: And (or "AND") — and then it disappeared.
A: Oh my. That would more than do it for me. You're sure this was not a dream? You're certain you were awake and fully conscious and all that?
K: I was wide-awake. I was definitely wide-awake and fully conscious and I did not sleep in that room again ever. I spent the next six months out in my hammock and tent in the backyard of my parents' house where I was at the time. . . .
A: I don't blame you a bit. Now somebody must've asked you why you did that? Did you tell the story?
K: I just said it's summer, it's — we're up here in the Rockies, it's beautiful, I'd like to spend the summer in the tent in the backyard.
A: (small laugh) Wise choice.
K: And nobody questioned me and I have not told that story to anyone and it's just as creepy now as it was then.
A: Boy, I sure appreciate your reaching out over this many miles to tell it. And plus —
K: I was saving it for "Ghost to Ghost" but —
A: Plus it — this must —
K: That one freaked me out.
A: — it must be daylight over there anyway right now.
K: It is 7:40 p.m.
A: 7:40 p.m. Korea. Alright well listen my friend —
K: With black driving wind and rain.
A: —driving wind and rain.
K: Alright, sir, thank you.
A: Alright, you take care. All the way from Korea. Whew. That's quite a call. ("BUT") Quite a story as well. Yeah, I don't — I wouldn't like that at all. First time caller line, you're on the air. Hello. Hello?
T: Hi.
A: Yes. You're on the air.
T: This is Travis from Casino, Wisconsin.
A: Yes, Travis.
T: That's about fifty miles north of Green Bay so you'll get like an idea of where that is.
A: I have a real good idea of where that is. Sure.
T: Okay, so this happened to me in the summer of '99. My cousin was always telling me about this mound that she went to like way back in the woods on this logging road.
A: Yes?
T: So whenever she stood on it, she'd get like this chill. A really bad chill. Like she totally froze up because it was like — it's almost like there was a spirit there.
A: The spirit in the mound?
T: Yeah, and I think that because there might be this dead girl buried under there because they never found the body —
A: Oh you mean that kind of a mound?
T: Yeah, because someone was murdered up here.
A: Well has anybody sought to dig?
T: No, because we never told anyone about it. So I knew her and her friend that lives like right down the road from her.
A: Yes?
T: We all live like within a mile away from each other . . . . (end of tape side) . . . It was like in the evening before it was dark. And we were just checking it out so I stood on it. And I did not feel anything. I wasn't even scared. And then we like just kept standing there for a long time. And then we like — trying to dig — like dig with sticks to see if there was anything under there. And we found this old bottle. It was like a 1940 or 1950 beer bottle. One of those brown ones with a handle on it. So I took that bottle back with me because I was going to keep it for a souvenir. I found that it'd be worth something. And on the way back this bird came out of nowhere. It just flew up. It was like acting all crazy.
A: What flew up out of nowhere?
T: A bird.
A: A bird.
T: It was weird. It just came out of nowhere and it was flying all over right from the path on the way back on my dirt bike on the logging road. And then that spooked us a little. And then we took another road to get back and we heard like this loud brush cracking so we thought that was a bear. Then that really scared us. So then she floored that dirt bike like up to sixty.
A: Yeah?
T: And then we got to her house and (or "AND") — and her friend was over there. It was like around nine o'clock.
A: And?
T: We were like just hanging out, just standing around outside talking and all of a sudden I heard a voice from behind the barn. It was saying, "HERE KITTY KITTY." And our friend just thought it was her mom but it wasn't.
A: Who was it?
T: Huh?
A: Who was it?
T: It was a — I don't know. It was like a ghost or something because nobody was out there but us. And everyone else was sleeping.
A: So it probably all centered around this thing — this bottle you dug up?
T: Yeah. It's almost like the bottle was a relic or something.
A: And you brought it back with you?
T: It — yeah. Like it had a spirit with it or something connected to it.
A: Yep. Where is it now?
T: So, okay, the bottle was like sitting in my cousin's room when all this was going on because we brought it in earlier. Then we just decided to take a ride up the road about twelve miles. And then on the way on that right it's like the lights just turned on bright automatically by themselves because I had it on dim.
A: (small laugh) Yes?
T: And then we got to this town called Stirring and so then we just like turned around and came back. Then all of a sudden on the way back we found like this fresh roadkill. It was like a bloody mess of something. I couldn't tell what it was. It was probably an animal.
A: In other words, signs all around you. At this point you were still holding on to this bottle?
T: No —yeah. The bottle — it's still at home but we don't have it with us.
A: I see. Okay.
T: It's at my cousin's house in an opened up bag.
A: Well obviously you're marked at this point. Yes.
T: So then we're at the — so when we got home — well actually before we got home, like a mile up the road we just see her cat come out of nowhere. It just comes — like starts walking towards the road.
A: Okay, I'm about out of time. Is there a bottom line to this story?
T: Okay, the bottom line is that people should like stay away from —
A: Spirit bottles.
T: Yeah. Like don't pick up any like that might be — have anything to do with spirit because I know there's definitely a spirit at that mound.
A: Alright. Well, you know, there are spirits that normally come in a bottle and some that don't so normally come. East of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
G: Hello.
A: Hello.
G: Yes. I'm calling from Virginia Beach.
A: Virginia Beach.
G: Yes. And I've got a story for you. My father — he's dead now but he was a World War II/Korea/Vietnam veteran — old school navy. And after he retired in the late '60s he went to work with the CIA/DIA.
A: Yes.
G: And I don't know if you ever heard of him but Commander Richard Marsenko of Seal Team Six. And —
A: You know, somehow that's a familiar name.
G: Yes, he dealt with — it was classified top secret by the navy, (Vanish?) by the Department of Defense but it was a Red Sail program created under the Reagan administration.
A: Yes?
G: In the '80s and it was — it ended in the '90s. He ended up in jail, whatnot, but it was a top secret group.
A: Why did he end up in jail?
G: Well the government went after him. They tried to get him for a lot — it was actually a headhunters group but they could only get him on other charges that dealt with abuse of money, etc. But I do have a plant on my left leg. It's like a chip or whatever and —
A: You've been implanted?
G: Yes, I have. And a lot of these people that they think are aliens, they're demonized humans.
A: So you think you've been implanted by a demonized human?
G: Yeah, but it's those people with the dark glasses and all that work for the CIA. They're actually — there's —
A: So they're just — they may not exactly be demonized. They may be just like evil humans.
G: If you've ever heard of the New World Order, it's a special top secret order that —
A: That what?
G: — has to deal with —
A: Wants to take over the world?
G: — taking over the world.
A: Yeah. Take over the world.
G: And it's not really aliens.
A: And George Bush knows about it as well as that? Right?
G: I have no idea.
A: Oh sure you do. You remember when George Bush talked about the New World Order? Don't you?
G: Yep.
A: You do remember? So if George Bush knows —
G: And I've also witnessed —
A: — then his son knows too, doesn't he?
G: Yeah.
A: And who's his son? None other than the current President of the United States.
G: Well it's —
A: And if that's not enough —
G: Yeah, I've witnessed this stuff. I mean I'm surprised I'm alive. I believe in guardian angels but I know that they do — I've seen a top secret weapon that they have. I've seen a Huey helicopter appear out of the sky.
A: They're not really top secret.
G: It's — that porthole that you were talking about. I witnessed it. A friend and I — we snuck out of our house one early morning. It was during Desert Storm and we were looking over the water and we started seeing heat flashing and then all of a sudden a static charge and there it came. A Huey helicopter appeared out of the sky, circled around over Broadbay and headed back toward Little Creek.
A: Well that'd do it for you, alright. Well there you have it — a strong believer in the New World Order. You know darn well he knew exactly what George Bush said. Just leave me alone. West of the Rockies, you're on the air. Good morning.
O: Hello?
A: Hello.
O: Oh. My name's Albert. I'm in Tacoma.
A: Albert? Alright.
O: Yeah. Back in '97 —
A: Albert, don't — you're dialing there.
O: Oh, that happens with this phone I guess. This happened once during a radio program over this phone.
A: You're pulsing me, Albert.
O: Oh. Well gosh darn it.
A: I can't handle it, Albert.
O: Yeah . . .
A: I'm going to have to move on. First-time caller line, you're on the air.
D: Art?
A: Yes?
D: I don't know what this would go under. This — oh well by the way this is Lee from Denison, Texas.
A: Yes, Lee?
D: I don't know — I think this is more for "Ghost to Ghost" —
A: No, we're not telling ghost stories tonight even though we've had a couple. I'm trying to avoid that. You know, we're sort staying within the limits of electro-magnetic radiation, time stories, encounters with aliens —
D: I don't know if this — I just want to say I don't know if this would be dimensional because it's not like —
A: Well you might slip it under the dimensional label. Let's hear it.
D: Okay. I was like at my aunt's house, you know? And, you know, I was by myself, right? And what had happened, I was sitting in the chair and I was smoking a cigarette and the ashtray on the arm of the chair, right?
A: Yeah.
D: So I get up to go to the bathroom. Now I don't know if this would be missing time and I swear to you I did not do this. I came back from the bathroom and the ashtray was clear across the room on the other end table at the end of the couch. Now I don't know if this would be missing time —
A: Was there anybody else in the house?
D: No, I was alone. They had went to Opalocka for Valentine's Day. And I tell you, it was enough to —
A: Are you talking about something that just happened?
D: No, this was just before I came to Texas. This was like in —
A: Oh I see. Okay, well I mean, after all, it was Valentine's Day, right? So —
D: Yeah, I mean — yeah, this was about '94.
A: So this would be the anniversary?
D: Right.
A: Okay.
D: I don't know if this would be under missing time but I do know that I don't know how long it was I was in there or what happened but all I know is I came back and it wasn't on the table beside me, it was clear across the room on the table next to the lamp. Clear across the room in front of me.
A: So what do you think happened?
D: What do I think happened? Well I don't want to take up a lot of your time . . .
A: Well it's worth asking. I mean we got the story. What do you think happened? Time went by, the ashtray moved by itself, what?
D: Okay, well I personally think that time went by because the reason I say that is because I don't remember moving it or I don't — I mean all I remember is getting up to, you know like say, go to the restroom, and I don't remember anything else. I just came back and it was as if it had been there and I know good and well . . .
A: Well I mean did anything else happen? Like did you have a little beard growth you didn't have before or some way to know that time passed?
D: No. No, I didn't.
A: Well I —
D: I feel I was kind of dazed. I mean like I couldn't remember. You know, I remember walking back there and back but I don't remember — I don't know. Now, like I say, I was alone and . . .
A: Well the one thing I'd worry about is burning down your house. I mean if the ashtray moved, there could've been a cigarette in it. Think what could've happened.
D: Well I had put it out. I remember that.
A: Yeah, I know but since the ashtrays move, that means somebody — you or somebody else smoked another one. They had some need of an ashtray anyway.
D: It must've been somebody else. (small laugh)
A: (small laugh) Well fire safety, sir, at all times. Wild card line (dial tone) — you would've been on the air. East of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hello?
S: Good evening or it's morning now, isn't it, Art?
A: It is and we don't have a lot of time so —
S: My name is Sandra. I'm calling from Illinois.
A: Hi, Sandra.
S: I have a pathology report that proves that I at one time had two brains.
A: That you had two brains?
S: Yes, sir. I found out — I actually broke a Guinness World Book of Records by containing my own twin inside of me for eighteen years.
A: You're kidding?
S: No, I'm not.
A: Oh Sandra you should've called earlier.
S: Oh sir, I've been home with four unexpected children and without a phone and without communications with the outside world for many, many years.
A: Well what happened to your other brain?
S: Well it's in the other side. It was removed by a surgeon and dissected and sent wherever they put the actual material. But as far as its ether. I have a pretty good idea. And —
A: So this was actually extracted from you in surgery?
S: Right. It also contained bone and skin and hair cells that continued to develop and divide within me.
A: Boy, some people have alter egos but that's really stretching it.
S: Oh sir, I'm trembling inside with my heart beating — can't believe I'm actually speaking to Art —
A: You just only —
S: — who helps us understand that what is, is right.
A: You only have one heart, right?
S: Yes.
A: Okay.
S: Okay.
A: Alright, well listen, you should've called me earlier in the show.
S: I wish I could. I sit here on redial just — I can't —
A: I mean if you were Rush Limbaugh, you could take half your brain, put it behind you and still have a full brain.
S: Well I have it in black and white and there's me here —
A: Send me — look. Send me some information. Email it to me, mail it to me — something.
S: I'll do my best to —
A: I'd like to read about what happened to you.
S: I'm easier going out the window than I am doors but I'll do my best.
A: (small laugh) We'll leave it on that note. Alright, Dr. David Anderson and before him Richard Hoagland tomorrow night. I'm Art Bell. Night all.
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So I'm sending Art some Email following my call. It's three a.m. at the moment. And my Email says: ( . . . )
Q: Well I've been tinkering with it. It's now 3:24. "Subject: This Morning's Call." Mailed to artbell@aol.com:
Art,
Following speaking to you this morning, I wanted to clarify my predicament. First of all, I apologize for any misunderstandings we might have shared in the past. My perspective on many things has evolved. What is most clear is that sometimes Spirit gives us the opportunity to share our process of evolution with others as a chance to prove love. It is apparent that you have the capabilities to overcome obstacles where the subject of reporting my experiences is concerned. If you understand these events correctly, I am one of the great many who have faith that you would be capable of helping others to also understand them. I'm available in any capacity to answer questions.
Thanks,Mark Russell Bell
Following speaking to you this morning, I wanted to clarify my predicament. First of all, I apologize for any misunderstandings we might have shared in the past. My perspective on many things has evolved. What is most clear is that sometimes Spirit gives us the opportunity to share our process of evolution with others as a chance to prove love. It is apparent that you have the capabilities to overcome obstacles where the subject of reporting my experiences is concerned. If you understand these events correctly, I am one of the great many who have faith that you would be capable of helping others to also understand them. I'm available in any capacity to answer questions.
Thanks,Mark Russell Bell
Q: And I'm going to send it. I think the main thing is — the words don't really convey — I think just the act of sending the Email is more important than what the words really say even though some of them are important. ("AND I HAVE") I'm tired. I'm not used to staying up this late.
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