RADIO INTERVIEW — TAPE C, SIDE #1
Q: Mark Russell Bell
T: Tommy Collins, host of “Morning X” on 99.5 FM in Grifton, NC
W: Wendy Rollins, host of “Morning X” on 99.5 FM in Grifton, NC
L: Ellen Russell
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I WAS INTERVIEWED FOR THE LIVE “MORNING X” RADIO SHOW ON NORTH CAROLINA’S 99.5 FM IN THE EARLY MORNING ON OCTOBER 11, 1999. TOMMY COLLINS SAID “NO” MIDWAY DURING A QUESTION THREE TIMES DURING THE INTERVIEW, PERHAPS ‘CHANNELING’ A RESPONSE.)
Q: Good morning?
T: Mr. Bell?
Q: Yes.
T: Hey, Tommy and Wendy from 99X.
Q: Hi.
T: We’re going to go on with your interview in about six minutes. Is that going to be a problem?
Q: No, that’s fine.
T: Okay, great. We’ll call you right back at this number then.
Q: Great.
T: Alright. Look forward to talking to you.
Q: Okay, bye.
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Q: Hello?
T: . . . (Mark Russell) Bell?
Q: Hi.
T: Tommy and Wendy again.
Q: Hi, Tommy.
T: . . . We’ve got one minute before we go on the air.
Q: Okay.
T: Where are we calling you at?
Q: I’m living in L.A.
T: Oh, okay. That’s early for you then.
Q: That’s right but I’m used to getting up early.
T: Okay. Good good. How’s the weather out in L.A. right now?
Q: It’s like summer. It’s very warm. I’m living in the valley at the moment after living in Santa Monica so I’m — (Wendy comes on the line) hi.
W: Hello.
T: That’s Wendy.
W: (laughs)
Q: Hi, Wendy.
W: How are you?
Q: Very good.
W: Good. (“NO”) We’re real interested in your story. We just don’t want to ask any questions until we get on the air so you’re not repeating yourself.
Q: Oh, okay.
W: Just as a baseline, you believe that you’re a reincarnated Egyptian deity? Correct?
Q: Yeah, it’s a long story though. (“AND I”) But I’m very good at making it short.
T: Good.
W: Good. I just wanted to make sure we’re all on the same base.
Q: Yeah. (song — I think “Do Right” concludes)
T: 99.5 WXNR New Rock 99X. Jimmie’s Chicken Shack. “Morning X.” Tommy and Wendy. It’s 8:21. Average temp 69 throughout eastern North Carolina which is one of my favorite temperatures.
W: (laughs)
T: Jimmie’s Chicken Shack coming to The Attic downtown Greenville homecoming concert, baby. It’s going to be awesome Saturday the — I believe it’s the 20th. I don’t have the calendar in front of me right now but it’s a Saturday and it’s around the 20th, whether it’s the 21st or 19th.
W: Jimmie’s Chicken Shack . . . I left you large and in charge.
T: Homecoming weekend, alright?
W: Right on!
T: You should be able to know when that is. (“HI”) That’s going to be awesome, man. We’re going to have all kinds — we’re going to have hundreds and hundreds of free CDs, all kinds of free food and stuff. And a big old party. It’s going to be the bomb! Alright, we have Mark Russell Bell on the line with us and he actually believes that he is a — Mr. Bell, what are you?
Q: Well apparently I lived a previous life where I was named Bel-Marduk who basically was a Sumerian god or deity. At least, that’s how we perceive him now through mythology. In Egyptian lore, he was also known as Amun-Ra or the individual that Edgar Cayce referred to as Ra-Ta.
T: Okay. So that’s Egyptian-speak for God.
W: I was going to say — I’m way off. I know Ra was the Sun god. (“IS THAT RIGHT”)
Q: Correct. That’s very good.
W: Yeah. So that’s where the name comes from but I’m like really reaching —
T: Should we call you your highness instead of Mr. Bell?
Q: Oh no no. I believe that we each are a manifestation of God on the Earth.
T: Ahhh.
Q: So — (or “SO”)
T: You know, that’s funny you say that because we had ‘God’ on the air about a month or two ago. He — guy changed his name to ‘God’ and he believes that he is God.
W: Legally. Yes.
T: And he had the same point that you just made.
Q: Well all these messianic characters are all basically correct because I believe that we all have to become a Jesus figure and really learn our lessons and help our fellow man.
T: Right.
W: Right. I mean that there is —
T: Should we all have a basic knowledge in carpentry then?
Q: Well in my case I was a carpenter but I was working at Paramount Pictures in Hollywood so I was sort of a carpenter in what I like to call the Hollywood dream factory.
T: Ahh. (“OF”)
Q: Of cou(rse) —
W: (laughs) That it is. That it is.
Q: But, of course, as I became more spiritually evolved, I realized that Spirit was leading me to write a book about my experiences because basically in me He had found someone who had sinned an awful lot doing the worst kind of jobs possible. Working in Hollywood, I was a talent agent, if you can believe that, before I was a public relations/publicity person. I even worked in the porno magazine industry —
T: Wow.
W: (laughs)
Q: — while I was in college. (“WAS”)
T: Are they still hiring?
Q: I don’t know, thank goodness.
T: (laughs)
Q: But that was a big mistake. So I think really, in terms of making my mistakes, I published a book about my experiences and I’m not — I don’t charge for it. I published it free on the Internet so peop(le) — (“SO”) it’s not like spirituality for sale.
W: Where would people find that?
Q: It’s at testament.org and I like getting Email and I answer people’s questions because I know this sounds a little ‘wacked-out’ to people. But, again, I think that’s one of the reasons why I was chosen because I’m just so normal and down-to-Earth.
T: Right. (O)kay.
Q: I mean I worked on —
W: So ba(sically) —
Q: (overlapping) I worked on —
W: . . . I’m sorry. (laughs)
Q: — movies like — oh okay?
T: Dd-dd-dd. Dd-dd-dd. Go ahead.
W: Go ahead.
Q: Yeah. (or “YEAH”)
T: Go ahead, Mr. Bell.
Q: Well — when I was working at Paramount, I worked on a lot of movies that had sort of supernatural subjects such as the movie “Ghost.” “The Butcher’s Wife” was actually filmed (partially) in North Carolina. The Demi Moore movie.
W: Yeah, I remember that. (“AN”)
Q: And — so a lot of films that touch on these subjects. “Virtuosity” was another one. “The Indian in the Cupboard.” So — “Fire In The Sky,” a lot of “Star Trek” movies, “Friday the 13th” movies. So — (“I”) sort of was an interesting background. This was before, of course, I knew what Spirit had in store for me.
T: Right. I had kind of a religious experience from “Friday the 13th” as well. I don’t know if I want to go into that but it was a — (“YEAH”) that was a personal story. Never mind.
W: (laughs)
T: Sorry I brought it up. (“WHAT”) It had to do with a girl, the popcorn trick. You know the popcorn trick? Never mind. You know — hole in the bottom of the popcorn bag. Never mind.
Q: Well what happened in my case —
W: Sorry. (Or “SORRY”)
Q: — in my case, I was researching talking poltergeists through history, which sort of prepared me. And I was reading cases of different talking poltergeists. Not just poltergeists but ones that actually spoke and sometimes they would even answer questions. And I found out there was a contemporary family in Oklahoma that had one of these living with them. So I called them and I found out that they actually were related to another family, the Bell family from the Bell Witch case in the 19th century. And — sort of like a dynasty of poltergeists. (“I”) I had worked on the movie “The Godfather Part III” so I thought, “This is sort of an interesting dynasty.”
T: Did you actually get to speak with the poltergeist?
Q: Well what happened is (“HE”) the poltergeist in this case was really an Angel. I mean they were calling him “Michael.” They thought He was really more of an alien than a spirit. (“BUT”) He was — He manifested basically as different spirit voices, different entities, spirits. He was basically the Channel between our world and God. So I realized that this was sort of Christ Consciousness or our shared Subconscious manifesting. And basically the conclusion that it led me to was that this was, in fact, the Son of God Who had Christed various individuals throughout history to write spiritually about their experiences. And I did — and then when I came back I started real(izing) — remembering things like, “Oh my God, I had burning bushes in my — in the back yard.” And I was working at Paramount, of course, which is known for the famous mountain logo. So then all this — it got even more bizarre.
T: So do any of these poltergeists/spirits that you talked to have any clairvoyant skills?
Q: Well I don’t really talk to them. What happened is on my interview tapes, when I played them back there were these small voice messages and bits of words of different voices.
T: Ohh.
Q: So — like (“LIKE THE”) —
W: Any of those tapes we can hear?
T: Yeah.
Q: I do. They’re not really — I don’t have them prepared at this moment to put on but I definitely would be glad to come back and share that with you.
T: Yeah, that’d be great. Hey, hold on one second, Mr. Bell. We’ve got to take a break real quick but we’re going to come back and talk to you a little bit more.
Q: Okay.
T: Alright. It’s 8:27. We have a 99X news update. It’s on the way. . . (I can’t make out these three syllables: Dog . . .?) next. Hey Mr. Bell, we’ve got a five-minute break plus the news.
Q: Okay.
T: Why don’t we just give you a call right back so you don’t have to be on hold?
Q: Okay, fine.
T: Okay.
( . . .)
Q: Hello?
T: Hey, it’s us again.
Q: Hi.
T: We’re on in twenty seconds.
Q: Okay. (song, inaudible on tape, ends) Hello?
T: 99.5 WXNR new rock 99X. Smash Mouth: “Walkin’ On The Sun.” “Morning X” Tommy and Wendy. It’s 8:39. The X forecast clouds and rain today, tonight and tomorrow just to sum it up and save us both a lot of headaches talking about it. High about — we’re looking at a high about 81 today and 75 tomorrow. Right now, average temp 71 throughout Carolina. We have Mark Russell Bell on the line. He is the — not only is he someone in our time helping us — he was also a pharaoh or a — what now? Tell now me what you were again? Some type of ancient Egyptian deity.
Q: Well at the time I believe he actually was a priest but (or “BUT”) in mythology he’s called a god. I guess they were called god-kings back then. Well I guess now the politicians are the god-kings in our culture.
T: That’s what they think, at least.
Q: And the movie stars. Or at least they think they are. But — and by the way, that song you just played “Walkin’ On The Sun” is a perfect example of a channeled song with very important messages.
T: Ahh. Did you hear a message inside that one?
Q: Well I think it begins very clearly. (“BUT”) See, I believe that all songs are channeled. I mean you hear about composers waking up with songs playing in their heads.
W: Right.
Q: And (“SO”) everything is divinely channeled so when people charge a lot of money and get a lot of money for channeled material there is a bit of a sin involved.
W: Now when you say ‘channeled’ — I mean I know what that means but I don’t think everybody knows what you mean by ‘channeled’ so could you define it for them?
Q: Right. It’s a very — first of all, the word has a very negative denotation these days because of all the phony channelers going around and channeling aliens and what-have-you. I mean if they are telling the truth, these are ve(ry) —
T: You’re not going to tell me Dionne Warwick is a fake, are you?
Q: Oh no. See, most singers and songwriters don’t realize (“THAT”)—well I think they might realize—that they are going to the Collective Unconscious and getting their songs and working in conjunction with Spirit to give various messages.
T: Right.
Q: It is a collaboration in each case yet there are channelers who say, “I am channeling,” let’s say, “Ra (“THERE IS” “AND HE”) and he has to say that there is no such thing as good or evil.” So what we have here is a parallel to Satan because, of course, in various lost books of the Bible and other cultures you have this character saying ‘I am God’ as if there is (“YOU KNOW”) one lone God figure. In the Bhagavad-Gita too, there are some troubling passages about Krishna saying, you know, ‘You can kill your fellow man because his soul is eternal.’ So — (“THERE”)
M Right.
Q: So basically — in fact, studying Krishna and comparing him with Jesus was very illuminating for me. (“LIKE”) Because when you read them both, you see how various misinterpretations have occurred with each of them.
T: Now when you tell people what you are and what, no, in your previous life, what is the normal reaction to that?
Q: Well, that’s why I usually tell them just to go to my website first because I have all the evidence there. For example, the tapes — some of the spirit messages are very short and abrupt and very difficult to hear. It’s called Electronic Voice Phenomena and this phenomena is getting more and more attention. In fact, I had made all of my tapes (I was going to say ‘available to Art Bell for his radio show’) — I have about almost 600 of them now, not including the ones I did at Paramount.
T: Do you think that the — what you were just talking about, the electric voice paranorma(l) thing — is that something that spirits have just learned because of recent, no, technological advances?
Q: Oh no. No. If (or “IF”) — see, I’m very — having done a lot of interviews and transcribing over the years, I actually can hear it even on broadcasts. On radio show broadcasts. (“BUT”) It sounds a lot like various people’s voices.
W: That would be a lot like the phenomena like we saw in the movie “(The) Sixth Sense.”
T: Right.
W: For people that saw that. They talk a little bit about — there’s a part in the movie where (something like: he’s listening to a tape and it turns out he hears more things that came from) voices of people who were not physically there.
T: Right.
W: You know? And is that what you’re talking about?
Q: Yes.
W: Something like that?
T: Well there’d be no point in spirits and such doing that earlier because we didn’t have the technology to, no, look for that type of stuff.
Q: Oh I’m sure they were doing it with all recorded material because it’s very hard to notice. For example, I used to listen a lot to the Art Bell show and I would actually hear spirit laughter inserted between various people speaking. And —
T: Now was it an evil laugh or just a ‘ha ha ha’ laugh?
W: Giggle.
Q: It could be — (“TH”) there are so many different types and variations that there’s a quite wide gamut here. (“BUT”) When I was in Oklahoma doing interviews there were some passages that were totally — I mean they’re ju(st) — some of them are very, very clear. It’s just like you or I speaking yet we weren’t being — we weren’t present at the interview.
W: Have you heard anything while we were talking?
Q: Well I’ll play the tape back later and see.
T: Oh okay.
W: You’ll have to call us back, of course, if you hear anything.
T: Absolutely. Because I’d like to know who’s in here.
Q: Well it’s amaz(ing) — well, first of all, since we have a shared Subconscious, everyone who’s ever lived can be here. I mean that’s why you have seances and what-have-you and famous people can appear because the channel Mighael, the Angel Mighael the Son of God is actually channeling various spirits.
T: Ahh.
Q: And He usually uses these trite cliche supernat(ural) — (“Y[OU KNO]W”) superstitious-type experiences to have a little fun with us.
T: Yeah, he was having — I saw him last night on television. The — on the world broadcast premiere of “Michael.”
W: Yes. Very good movie.
T: It was. (Or “IT WAS”)
Q: Oh right. Well that tied-in with my case because when I went to Oklahoma, they all said (“TH”) the Angel had told them before I got there that somebody from Paramount would be coming and that a big movie would be made.
T: Right.
Q: So anyway of course I cut a deal with them to tell their story. (“AND”) They are, by the way, sharing all the profits from my book and I’m not really getting any of the profit from the book I published.
T: Right. (“SO”)
W: Is that book —
T: Michael’s big message was — remember what John and Paul said — Beatles.
Q: That’s right.
T: All there (or “ALL THERE”) — all we need is love.
W: Now real quick again, you said your book is only available on your website —
Q: Well, no, it’s also available at — you can order it from bookstores.
W: Oh okay.
Q: But — but you know (or “BUT YOU KNOW”) it’s free on the Internet. (“I MEAN”) In fact, I did —
T: Mark — give us your website again, Mark.
Q: testament.org
W: (O)kay.
T: And your book’s available in bookstores?
Q: Yeah, you can special order it or call The Bodhi Tree in L.A.
T: Okay.
Q: And (“N”) you know — and I do have a lot of proof for what I say, by the way. (“LIKE”) I have ancestral proof in terms of my genealogy — (“WHICH” or “WITCH”)
T: Right.
Q: All this proof that I have and, of course, when I was in Oklahoma I even had a scarab-looking beetle knocking at my door. Actually all these experiences are presented in documentary fashion because at the time when I was doing these tapes, I never realized I’d actually publish the tapes verbatim. And that’s really what I have at the website along with the spirit messages in parentheses.
T: Got you. Alright Mark, we’ve got to run, buddy.
Q: Okay.
T: Thanks for coming on the show with us this morning, man.
Q: Okay, great.
T: Alright, take it easy.
W: Bye-bye.
Q: Thank you. Bye.
T: Alright, we’ve got Creed on the way plus more 311 CDs on a 99X free Monday. It’s coming up. (off the air) Mark, thanks bud.
Q: Okay. You’re welcome.
W: Have a good day.
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Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So after thinking about this latest radio interview — I’m thinking about — that my speaking was a little sloppy and, of course, I try not to do that because then it makes it hard to differentiate the words—when you start a sentence and don’t complete a sentence—from spirit messages. Although in a way they are spirit messages because they’re coming from out subconscious and I seem to do it more than many people because of the whole task involved. I’m disappointed that I didn’t stay on (I guess I did). When Tara had booked me, she said it would be around a half hour and it wasn’t that long. I guess I wasn’t “wacked-out” enough (for them) even though God knows I have been on other radio interview shows. Maybe it does show I am getting better at this. I do intend to have the opening lyrics of that song “Walkin’ On The Sun” here.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE FOLLOWING LYRICS FOR SMASH MOUTH’S “WALKIN’ ON THE SUN,” TRANSCRIBED BY IMADOLLY [SONGBOT STAFF MEMBER], WERE FOUND AT HTTP://WWW.SONGBOT.COM/SONGBOT/ARTISTS/SMASH-MOUTH/WALKIN-ON-THE-SUN.HTM)
lt ain’t no joke l’d like to buy the world a toke And teach the world to sing in perfect harmony And teach the world to snuff the fires and the liars Hey l know it’s just a song but it’s spice for the recipe This is a love attack l know it went out but it’s back lt’s just like any fad it reacts before impact And just like fashion it’s a passion for the with it and hip If you got the goods they’ll come and buy it just to stay on the clique So don’t delay act now supplies are running out Allow, if your still alive, six to eight years to arrive And if you follow there may be a tomorrow But if the offer is shun you might as well be walking on the sun And they folked out on guitars around a bon fire Just singin’ and clappin’ man what the hell happened Some say were spell bound some say were hell bound Some they fell down and some got back up and Fought back ‘gainst the melt down And their kids are hippie chicks and hypocrites Because fashion is smashin’ the whole meaning of it
(chorus)
It ain’t no joke when a mamma’s hankercheif is soaked With tears because her baby’s life has been revoked The bond is broke up so choke up and focus on the close up Mr.Wizard can’t perform no god like Hocus Pocus So don’t sit back kick back and watch the world get bushwacked News at 10:00 your neighborhood is under attack You need to be there when your babies are old enough to relate
(chorus)
Q: Of course, there was a lot I wanted to say but couldn’t get in. For example, I wanted to mention my experience on September 9, ’99 — the famous 9-9-99. When I was reading at the gym My Search For The Ghost Of Flight 401 by Elizabeth Fuller. And on page 116 which I read that day—and I finished the book that day—it talked about the Son of God and it was confirmation. It talked about psychiatrist George Ritchie who Dr. Raymond Moody dedicated his book Life After Life to him.
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Q: So I didn’t manage to talk about the commandments. I want to add a new one to my “Spiritual Advice” list, which I’ve seen on a few bumper stickers and I’ve learned from experience. And I’m ready now to add because television is totally worthless with those insidious laugh tracks and editing out of any pertinent news. I mean just look at the subjects of these talkshows in the morning. There’s never anything political.
22. Trash your television. Q: I’d also hoped to explain that for the purposes of my book I’ve been led into many cover-up situations and what-have-you. I mean I haven’t transcribed all the tapes. (“BUT”) Recent cover-ups have involved Connie Chung and I’m not really sure if it’s true because it was something I received via Email from ‘Newshawk.’ But I do talk about that on another tape side and of course relating as I’ve talked before about Arnold Schwarzenegger and his many health problems. When he glamorized the use of steroids in his competitions and movies, it was fine for him to receive the rewards of fame and fortune. Yet now, when his body has been destroyed and ravaged by these drugs, it’s being covered up.
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Q: The media hasn’t shared my spiritual advice because, of course, I’m not on the list for television of approved subjects. And newspapers have a kind of list themselves because they don’t want to upset their advertisers or their readers because it’s all about making money. Mostly for their companies that don’t even exist. Of course, they’re comfortable in their own lives even though they’re underpaid, perhaps — journalists are. Yet they’re all afraid seemingly to rock the boat and that’s their job. That’s how they can serve God. The entire manifestation of life as I’ve talked about before of individual selves hover on the border of our physical being, which is God, and everything external to our consciousness, which is God. So we’re just a spark of emotions that have all these various tests and other choices and manipulations and possibilities and different thoughts coming from who knows where. And we have the freedom and power of choice as we evolve. The same letters spell love. But, of course, I prefer only using the word love in conjunction with God.
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Q: So I’m not going say anything more because I’ve said quite enough — (“I”) been using these radio interviews as sort of the Reader’s Digest version of all my experiences and the book. Only a small percentage having been transcribed for the website. And as I transcribe my earlier tape sides I do see how I have evolved because I am far more spiritually aware now than even when I was after Testament was published. I mean I thought that God had chose me because I was so ideal and then gradually I learned that not only was I not the only Son of God as I had hoped but also that I was still making tremendously terrible mistakes to the point where I found my life endangered several times: walking through the stairs from the garage at Rogers & Cowan and, of course, on the freeway under those bizarre circumstances a couple times. So you know how judgmental we are when it comes to our view on society and religion. God revealed Himself to one of these judgmental people involved in the exploitative social order; perhaps so He could communicate on a level that others could recognize what they have in common.
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Q: So in concluding — God is Love and I’m willing to broadcast all the tapes on the radio if we can work out the commercials mess. If there aren’t commercials. So people can hear about all my debacles and travesties. It’s better than what you see at the movies or on TV.
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Q: So I just printed out the lyrics for “Walkin’ On The Sun” by Smash Mouth. I guess it was transcribed by IMADolly (Songbot Staff Member). There’s an Email address at bellsouth.net. So I never really had listened to all the lyrics. I really couldn’t understand them just listening to them on the radio. So I guess I’ll include them all.
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Q: So I need to add one P.S. before finishing this tape side. I do feel rather in tune with Mighael and altogether I don’t think He’s entirely satisfied with this tape side because it doesn’t really communicate all the Love that I’ve received. It doesn’t really show Mighael to be Love. So just to clarify — except for a few incidents to communicate necessary path alterations, I have lived entirely in Love and awareness of God’s gifts. And all the various gifts. Once I did have my spiritual redemption and awakening, all the things associated with our pathetic, sad material culture no longer had any luster for me. All the technology, most of the songs, video games — I mean it’s all garbage. Materialistic garbage. Rich foods — (“FOODS TH[AT]”) are terrible for you. Drinks that are terrible for you — just about anything fizzy. I do have Orangina from time to time but I don’t even think Mighael wants me — what?
L: (interrupts/opens door to my room) Have your shower so it won’t be so wet when I go in.
Q: Ellen, please. I put a towel down for you.
L: That’s not good en(ough) — it’s wet all — the whole bathroom is damp.
Q: Well that’s steam. I can’t help that. Oh God — listen to what I have live with. Ohh! So, anyway, I’m not complaining. There are a lot of homeless people out there and people holding down horrendous jobs that wreak havoc with their karma. Anyway, what was I saying? (“SO”) God is Love. Mighael is Love. But sometimes They have to be tough to help us with our lessons and insights. And I’m just very pleased with this new spiritual understanding that I have because I find value in everything — things I didn’t appreciate and took for granted before. One can never really say enough so I guess it’s good that the end of this tape side is coming. I’m going to have lunch with Fiona today, a rare lunch out. Of course, I’m going to The Good Earth probably. I can barely afford that. So I might be back to temping soon. We’ll just have to wait and see. Of course, I don’t want to. Who would want to? I certainly — who knows? I take it one day at a time, which is all everyone should do. Knowing that God and Spirit is always with me means that I always have a friend.
Q: Good morning?
T: Mr. Bell?
Q: Yes.
T: Hey, Tommy and Wendy from 99X.
Q: Hi.
T: We’re going to go on with your interview in about six minutes. Is that going to be a problem?
Q: No, that’s fine.
T: Okay, great. We’ll call you right back at this number then.
Q: Great.
T: Alright. Look forward to talking to you.
Q: Okay, bye.
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Q: Hello?
T: . . . (Mark Russell) Bell?
Q: Hi.
T: Tommy and Wendy again.
Q: Hi, Tommy.
T: . . . We’ve got one minute before we go on the air.
Q: Okay.
T: Where are we calling you at?
Q: I’m living in L.A.
T: Oh, okay. That’s early for you then.
Q: That’s right but I’m used to getting up early.
T: Okay. Good good. How’s the weather out in L.A. right now?
Q: It’s like summer. It’s very warm. I’m living in the valley at the moment after living in Santa Monica so I’m — (Wendy comes on the line) hi.
W: Hello.
T: That’s Wendy.
W: (laughs)
Q: Hi, Wendy.
W: How are you?
Q: Very good.
W: Good. (“NO”) We’re real interested in your story. We just don’t want to ask any questions until we get on the air so you’re not repeating yourself.
Q: Oh, okay.
W: Just as a baseline, you believe that you’re a reincarnated Egyptian deity? Correct?
Q: Yeah, it’s a long story though. (“AND I”) But I’m very good at making it short.
T: Good.
W: Good. I just wanted to make sure we’re all on the same base.
Q: Yeah. (song — I think “Do Right” concludes)
T: 99.5 WXNR New Rock 99X. Jimmie’s Chicken Shack. “Morning X.” Tommy and Wendy. It’s 8:21. Average temp 69 throughout eastern North Carolina which is one of my favorite temperatures.
W: (laughs)
T: Jimmie’s Chicken Shack coming to The Attic downtown Greenville homecoming concert, baby. It’s going to be awesome Saturday the — I believe it’s the 20th. I don’t have the calendar in front of me right now but it’s a Saturday and it’s around the 20th, whether it’s the 21st or 19th.
W: Jimmie’s Chicken Shack . . . I left you large and in charge.
T: Homecoming weekend, alright?
W: Right on!
T: You should be able to know when that is. (“HI”) That’s going to be awesome, man. We’re going to have all kinds — we’re going to have hundreds and hundreds of free CDs, all kinds of free food and stuff. And a big old party. It’s going to be the bomb! Alright, we have Mark Russell Bell on the line with us and he actually believes that he is a — Mr. Bell, what are you?
Q: Well apparently I lived a previous life where I was named Bel-Marduk who basically was a Sumerian god or deity. At least, that’s how we perceive him now through mythology. In Egyptian lore, he was also known as Amun-Ra or the individual that Edgar Cayce referred to as Ra-Ta.
T: Okay. So that’s Egyptian-speak for God.
W: I was going to say — I’m way off. I know Ra was the Sun god. (“IS THAT RIGHT”)
Q: Correct. That’s very good.
W: Yeah. So that’s where the name comes from but I’m like really reaching —
T: Should we call you your highness instead of Mr. Bell?
Q: Oh no no. I believe that we each are a manifestation of God on the Earth.
T: Ahhh.
Q: So — (or “SO”)
T: You know, that’s funny you say that because we had ‘God’ on the air about a month or two ago. He — guy changed his name to ‘God’ and he believes that he is God.
W: Legally. Yes.
T: And he had the same point that you just made.
Q: Well all these messianic characters are all basically correct because I believe that we all have to become a Jesus figure and really learn our lessons and help our fellow man.
T: Right.
W: Right. I mean that there is —
T: Should we all have a basic knowledge in carpentry then?
Q: Well in my case I was a carpenter but I was working at Paramount Pictures in Hollywood so I was sort of a carpenter in what I like to call the Hollywood dream factory.
T: Ahh. (“OF”)
Q: Of cou(rse) —
W: (laughs) That it is. That it is.
Q: But, of course, as I became more spiritually evolved, I realized that Spirit was leading me to write a book about my experiences because basically in me He had found someone who had sinned an awful lot doing the worst kind of jobs possible. Working in Hollywood, I was a talent agent, if you can believe that, before I was a public relations/publicity person. I even worked in the porno magazine industry —
T: Wow.
W: (laughs)
Q: — while I was in college. (“WAS”)
T: Are they still hiring?
Q: I don’t know, thank goodness.
T: (laughs)
Q: But that was a big mistake. So I think really, in terms of making my mistakes, I published a book about my experiences and I’m not — I don’t charge for it. I published it free on the Internet so peop(le) — (“SO”) it’s not like spirituality for sale.
W: Where would people find that?
Q: It’s at testament.org and I like getting Email and I answer people’s questions because I know this sounds a little ‘wacked-out’ to people. But, again, I think that’s one of the reasons why I was chosen because I’m just so normal and down-to-Earth.
T: Right. (O)kay.
Q: I mean I worked on —
W: So ba(sically) —
Q: (overlapping) I worked on —
W: . . . I’m sorry. (laughs)
Q: — movies like — oh okay?
T: Dd-dd-dd. Dd-dd-dd. Go ahead.
W: Go ahead.
Q: Yeah. (or “YEAH”)
T: Go ahead, Mr. Bell.
Q: Well — when I was working at Paramount, I worked on a lot of movies that had sort of supernatural subjects such as the movie “Ghost.” “The Butcher’s Wife” was actually filmed (partially) in North Carolina. The Demi Moore movie.
W: Yeah, I remember that. (“AN”)
Q: And — so a lot of films that touch on these subjects. “Virtuosity” was another one. “The Indian in the Cupboard.” So — “Fire In The Sky,” a lot of “Star Trek” movies, “Friday the 13th” movies. So — (“I”) sort of was an interesting background. This was before, of course, I knew what Spirit had in store for me.
T: Right. I had kind of a religious experience from “Friday the 13th” as well. I don’t know if I want to go into that but it was a — (“YEAH”) that was a personal story. Never mind.
W: (laughs)
T: Sorry I brought it up. (“WHAT”) It had to do with a girl, the popcorn trick. You know the popcorn trick? Never mind. You know — hole in the bottom of the popcorn bag. Never mind.
Q: Well what happened in my case —
W: Sorry. (Or “SORRY”)
Q: — in my case, I was researching talking poltergeists through history, which sort of prepared me. And I was reading cases of different talking poltergeists. Not just poltergeists but ones that actually spoke and sometimes they would even answer questions. And I found out there was a contemporary family in Oklahoma that had one of these living with them. So I called them and I found out that they actually were related to another family, the Bell family from the Bell Witch case in the 19th century. And — sort of like a dynasty of poltergeists. (“I”) I had worked on the movie “The Godfather Part III” so I thought, “This is sort of an interesting dynasty.”
T: Did you actually get to speak with the poltergeist?
Q: Well what happened is (“HE”) the poltergeist in this case was really an Angel. I mean they were calling him “Michael.” They thought He was really more of an alien than a spirit. (“BUT”) He was — He manifested basically as different spirit voices, different entities, spirits. He was basically the Channel between our world and God. So I realized that this was sort of Christ Consciousness or our shared Subconscious manifesting. And basically the conclusion that it led me to was that this was, in fact, the Son of God Who had Christed various individuals throughout history to write spiritually about their experiences. And I did — and then when I came back I started real(izing) — remembering things like, “Oh my God, I had burning bushes in my — in the back yard.” And I was working at Paramount, of course, which is known for the famous mountain logo. So then all this — it got even more bizarre.
T: So do any of these poltergeists/spirits that you talked to have any clairvoyant skills?
Q: Well I don’t really talk to them. What happened is on my interview tapes, when I played them back there were these small voice messages and bits of words of different voices.
T: Ohh.
Q: So — like (“LIKE THE”) —
W: Any of those tapes we can hear?
T: Yeah.
Q: I do. They’re not really — I don’t have them prepared at this moment to put on but I definitely would be glad to come back and share that with you.
T: Yeah, that’d be great. Hey, hold on one second, Mr. Bell. We’ve got to take a break real quick but we’re going to come back and talk to you a little bit more.
Q: Okay.
T: Alright. It’s 8:27. We have a 99X news update. It’s on the way. . . (I can’t make out these three syllables: Dog . . .?) next. Hey Mr. Bell, we’ve got a five-minute break plus the news.
Q: Okay.
T: Why don’t we just give you a call right back so you don’t have to be on hold?
Q: Okay, fine.
T: Okay.
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Q: Hello?
T: Hey, it’s us again.
Q: Hi.
T: We’re on in twenty seconds.
Q: Okay. (song, inaudible on tape, ends) Hello?
T: 99.5 WXNR new rock 99X. Smash Mouth: “Walkin’ On The Sun.” “Morning X” Tommy and Wendy. It’s 8:39. The X forecast clouds and rain today, tonight and tomorrow just to sum it up and save us both a lot of headaches talking about it. High about — we’re looking at a high about 81 today and 75 tomorrow. Right now, average temp 71 throughout Carolina. We have Mark Russell Bell on the line. He is the — not only is he someone in our time helping us — he was also a pharaoh or a — what now? Tell now me what you were again? Some type of ancient Egyptian deity.
Q: Well at the time I believe he actually was a priest but (or “BUT”) in mythology he’s called a god. I guess they were called god-kings back then. Well I guess now the politicians are the god-kings in our culture.
T: That’s what they think, at least.
Q: And the movie stars. Or at least they think they are. But — and by the way, that song you just played “Walkin’ On The Sun” is a perfect example of a channeled song with very important messages.
T: Ahh. Did you hear a message inside that one?
Q: Well I think it begins very clearly. (“BUT”) See, I believe that all songs are channeled. I mean you hear about composers waking up with songs playing in their heads.
W: Right.
Q: And (“SO”) everything is divinely channeled so when people charge a lot of money and get a lot of money for channeled material there is a bit of a sin involved.
W: Now when you say ‘channeled’ — I mean I know what that means but I don’t think everybody knows what you mean by ‘channeled’ so could you define it for them?
Q: Right. It’s a very — first of all, the word has a very negative denotation these days because of all the phony channelers going around and channeling aliens and what-have-you. I mean if they are telling the truth, these are ve(ry) —
T: You’re not going to tell me Dionne Warwick is a fake, are you?
Q: Oh no. See, most singers and songwriters don’t realize (“THAT”)—well I think they might realize—that they are going to the Collective Unconscious and getting their songs and working in conjunction with Spirit to give various messages.
T: Right.
Q: It is a collaboration in each case yet there are channelers who say, “I am channeling,” let’s say, “Ra (“THERE IS” “AND HE”) and he has to say that there is no such thing as good or evil.” So what we have here is a parallel to Satan because, of course, in various lost books of the Bible and other cultures you have this character saying ‘I am God’ as if there is (“YOU KNOW”) one lone God figure. In the Bhagavad-Gita too, there are some troubling passages about Krishna saying, you know, ‘You can kill your fellow man because his soul is eternal.’ So — (“THERE”)
M Right.
Q: So basically — in fact, studying Krishna and comparing him with Jesus was very illuminating for me. (“LIKE”) Because when you read them both, you see how various misinterpretations have occurred with each of them.
T: Now when you tell people what you are and what, no, in your previous life, what is the normal reaction to that?
Q: Well, that’s why I usually tell them just to go to my website first because I have all the evidence there. For example, the tapes — some of the spirit messages are very short and abrupt and very difficult to hear. It’s called Electronic Voice Phenomena and this phenomena is getting more and more attention. In fact, I had made all of my tapes (I was going to say ‘available to Art Bell for his radio show’) — I have about almost 600 of them now, not including the ones I did at Paramount.
T: Do you think that the — what you were just talking about, the electric voice paranorma(l) thing — is that something that spirits have just learned because of recent, no, technological advances?
Q: Oh no. No. If (or “IF”) — see, I’m very — having done a lot of interviews and transcribing over the years, I actually can hear it even on broadcasts. On radio show broadcasts. (“BUT”) It sounds a lot like various people’s voices.
W: That would be a lot like the phenomena like we saw in the movie “(The) Sixth Sense.”
T: Right.
W: For people that saw that. They talk a little bit about — there’s a part in the movie where (something like: he’s listening to a tape and it turns out he hears more things that came from) voices of people who were not physically there.
T: Right.
W: You know? And is that what you’re talking about?
Q: Yes.
W: Something like that?
T: Well there’d be no point in spirits and such doing that earlier because we didn’t have the technology to, no, look for that type of stuff.
Q: Oh I’m sure they were doing it with all recorded material because it’s very hard to notice. For example, I used to listen a lot to the Art Bell show and I would actually hear spirit laughter inserted between various people speaking. And —
T: Now was it an evil laugh or just a ‘ha ha ha’ laugh?
W: Giggle.
Q: It could be — (“TH”) there are so many different types and variations that there’s a quite wide gamut here. (“BUT”) When I was in Oklahoma doing interviews there were some passages that were totally — I mean they’re ju(st) — some of them are very, very clear. It’s just like you or I speaking yet we weren’t being — we weren’t present at the interview.
W: Have you heard anything while we were talking?
Q: Well I’ll play the tape back later and see.
T: Oh okay.
W: You’ll have to call us back, of course, if you hear anything.
T: Absolutely. Because I’d like to know who’s in here.
Q: Well it’s amaz(ing) — well, first of all, since we have a shared Subconscious, everyone who’s ever lived can be here. I mean that’s why you have seances and what-have-you and famous people can appear because the channel Mighael, the Angel Mighael the Son of God is actually channeling various spirits.
T: Ahh.
Q: And He usually uses these trite cliche supernat(ural) — (“Y[OU KNO]W”) superstitious-type experiences to have a little fun with us.
T: Yeah, he was having — I saw him last night on television. The — on the world broadcast premiere of “Michael.”
W: Yes. Very good movie.
T: It was. (Or “IT WAS”)
Q: Oh right. Well that tied-in with my case because when I went to Oklahoma, they all said (“TH”) the Angel had told them before I got there that somebody from Paramount would be coming and that a big movie would be made.
T: Right.
Q: So anyway of course I cut a deal with them to tell their story. (“AND”) They are, by the way, sharing all the profits from my book and I’m not really getting any of the profit from the book I published.
T: Right. (“SO”)
W: Is that book —
T: Michael’s big message was — remember what John and Paul said — Beatles.
Q: That’s right.
T: All there (or “ALL THERE”) — all we need is love.
W: Now real quick again, you said your book is only available on your website —
Q: Well, no, it’s also available at — you can order it from bookstores.
W: Oh okay.
Q: But — but you know (or “BUT YOU KNOW”) it’s free on the Internet. (“I MEAN”) In fact, I did —
T: Mark — give us your website again, Mark.
Q: testament.org
W: (O)kay.
T: And your book’s available in bookstores?
Q: Yeah, you can special order it or call The Bodhi Tree in L.A.
T: Okay.
Q: And (“N”) you know — and I do have a lot of proof for what I say, by the way. (“LIKE”) I have ancestral proof in terms of my genealogy — (“WHICH” or “WITCH”)
T: Right.
Q: All this proof that I have and, of course, when I was in Oklahoma I even had a scarab-looking beetle knocking at my door. Actually all these experiences are presented in documentary fashion because at the time when I was doing these tapes, I never realized I’d actually publish the tapes verbatim. And that’s really what I have at the website along with the spirit messages in parentheses.
T: Got you. Alright Mark, we’ve got to run, buddy.
Q: Okay.
T: Thanks for coming on the show with us this morning, man.
Q: Okay, great.
T: Alright, take it easy.
W: Bye-bye.
Q: Thank you. Bye.
T: Alright, we’ve got Creed on the way plus more 311 CDs on a 99X free Monday. It’s coming up. (off the air) Mark, thanks bud.
Q: Okay. You’re welcome.
W: Have a good day.
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Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So after thinking about this latest radio interview — I’m thinking about — that my speaking was a little sloppy and, of course, I try not to do that because then it makes it hard to differentiate the words—when you start a sentence and don’t complete a sentence—from spirit messages. Although in a way they are spirit messages because they’re coming from out subconscious and I seem to do it more than many people because of the whole task involved. I’m disappointed that I didn’t stay on (I guess I did). When Tara had booked me, she said it would be around a half hour and it wasn’t that long. I guess I wasn’t “wacked-out” enough (for them) even though God knows I have been on other radio interview shows. Maybe it does show I am getting better at this. I do intend to have the opening lyrics of that song “Walkin’ On The Sun” here.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE FOLLOWING LYRICS FOR SMASH MOUTH’S “WALKIN’ ON THE SUN,” TRANSCRIBED BY IMADOLLY [SONGBOT STAFF MEMBER], WERE FOUND AT HTTP://WWW.SONGBOT.COM/SONGBOT/ARTISTS/SMASH-MOUTH/WALKIN-ON-THE-SUN.HTM)
lt ain’t no joke l’d like to buy the world a toke And teach the world to sing in perfect harmony And teach the world to snuff the fires and the liars Hey l know it’s just a song but it’s spice for the recipe This is a love attack l know it went out but it’s back lt’s just like any fad it reacts before impact And just like fashion it’s a passion for the with it and hip If you got the goods they’ll come and buy it just to stay on the clique So don’t delay act now supplies are running out Allow, if your still alive, six to eight years to arrive And if you follow there may be a tomorrow But if the offer is shun you might as well be walking on the sun And they folked out on guitars around a bon fire Just singin’ and clappin’ man what the hell happened Some say were spell bound some say were hell bound Some they fell down and some got back up and Fought back ‘gainst the melt down And their kids are hippie chicks and hypocrites Because fashion is smashin’ the whole meaning of it
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It ain’t no joke when a mamma’s hankercheif is soaked With tears because her baby’s life has been revoked The bond is broke up so choke up and focus on the close up Mr.Wizard can’t perform no god like Hocus Pocus So don’t sit back kick back and watch the world get bushwacked News at 10:00 your neighborhood is under attack You need to be there when your babies are old enough to relate
(chorus)
Q: Of course, there was a lot I wanted to say but couldn’t get in. For example, I wanted to mention my experience on September 9, ’99 — the famous 9-9-99. When I was reading at the gym My Search For The Ghost Of Flight 401 by Elizabeth Fuller. And on page 116 which I read that day—and I finished the book that day—it talked about the Son of God and it was confirmation. It talked about psychiatrist George Ritchie who Dr. Raymond Moody dedicated his book Life After Life to him.
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Q: So I didn’t manage to talk about the commandments. I want to add a new one to my “Spiritual Advice” list, which I’ve seen on a few bumper stickers and I’ve learned from experience. And I’m ready now to add because television is totally worthless with those insidious laugh tracks and editing out of any pertinent news. I mean just look at the subjects of these talkshows in the morning. There’s never anything political.
22. Trash your television. Q: I’d also hoped to explain that for the purposes of my book I’ve been led into many cover-up situations and what-have-you. I mean I haven’t transcribed all the tapes. (“BUT”) Recent cover-ups have involved Connie Chung and I’m not really sure if it’s true because it was something I received via Email from ‘Newshawk.’ But I do talk about that on another tape side and of course relating as I’ve talked before about Arnold Schwarzenegger and his many health problems. When he glamorized the use of steroids in his competitions and movies, it was fine for him to receive the rewards of fame and fortune. Yet now, when his body has been destroyed and ravaged by these drugs, it’s being covered up.
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Q: The media hasn’t shared my spiritual advice because, of course, I’m not on the list for television of approved subjects. And newspapers have a kind of list themselves because they don’t want to upset their advertisers or their readers because it’s all about making money. Mostly for their companies that don’t even exist. Of course, they’re comfortable in their own lives even though they’re underpaid, perhaps — journalists are. Yet they’re all afraid seemingly to rock the boat and that’s their job. That’s how they can serve God. The entire manifestation of life as I’ve talked about before of individual selves hover on the border of our physical being, which is God, and everything external to our consciousness, which is God. So we’re just a spark of emotions that have all these various tests and other choices and manipulations and possibilities and different thoughts coming from who knows where. And we have the freedom and power of choice as we evolve. The same letters spell love. But, of course, I prefer only using the word love in conjunction with God.
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Q: So I’m not going say anything more because I’ve said quite enough — (“I”) been using these radio interviews as sort of the Reader’s Digest version of all my experiences and the book. Only a small percentage having been transcribed for the website. And as I transcribe my earlier tape sides I do see how I have evolved because I am far more spiritually aware now than even when I was after Testament was published. I mean I thought that God had chose me because I was so ideal and then gradually I learned that not only was I not the only Son of God as I had hoped but also that I was still making tremendously terrible mistakes to the point where I found my life endangered several times: walking through the stairs from the garage at Rogers & Cowan and, of course, on the freeway under those bizarre circumstances a couple times. So you know how judgmental we are when it comes to our view on society and religion. God revealed Himself to one of these judgmental people involved in the exploitative social order; perhaps so He could communicate on a level that others could recognize what they have in common.
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Q: So in concluding — God is Love and I’m willing to broadcast all the tapes on the radio if we can work out the commercials mess. If there aren’t commercials. So people can hear about all my debacles and travesties. It’s better than what you see at the movies or on TV.
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Q: So I just printed out the lyrics for “Walkin’ On The Sun” by Smash Mouth. I guess it was transcribed by IMADolly (Songbot Staff Member). There’s an Email address at bellsouth.net. So I never really had listened to all the lyrics. I really couldn’t understand them just listening to them on the radio. So I guess I’ll include them all.
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Q: So I need to add one P.S. before finishing this tape side. I do feel rather in tune with Mighael and altogether I don’t think He’s entirely satisfied with this tape side because it doesn’t really communicate all the Love that I’ve received. It doesn’t really show Mighael to be Love. So just to clarify — except for a few incidents to communicate necessary path alterations, I have lived entirely in Love and awareness of God’s gifts. And all the various gifts. Once I did have my spiritual redemption and awakening, all the things associated with our pathetic, sad material culture no longer had any luster for me. All the technology, most of the songs, video games — I mean it’s all garbage. Materialistic garbage. Rich foods — (“FOODS TH[AT]”) are terrible for you. Drinks that are terrible for you — just about anything fizzy. I do have Orangina from time to time but I don’t even think Mighael wants me — what?
L: (interrupts/opens door to my room) Have your shower so it won’t be so wet when I go in.
Q: Ellen, please. I put a towel down for you.
L: That’s not good en(ough) — it’s wet all — the whole bathroom is damp.
Q: Well that’s steam. I can’t help that. Oh God — listen to what I have live with. Ohh! So, anyway, I’m not complaining. There are a lot of homeless people out there and people holding down horrendous jobs that wreak havoc with their karma. Anyway, what was I saying? (“SO”) God is Love. Mighael is Love. But sometimes They have to be tough to help us with our lessons and insights. And I’m just very pleased with this new spiritual understanding that I have because I find value in everything — things I didn’t appreciate and took for granted before. One can never really say enough so I guess it’s good that the end of this tape side is coming. I’m going to have lunch with Fiona today, a rare lunch out. Of course, I’m going to The Good Earth probably. I can barely afford that. So I might be back to temping soon. We’ll just have to wait and see. Of course, I don’t want to. Who would want to? I certainly — who knows? I take it one day at a time, which is all everyone should do. Knowing that God and Spirit is always with me means that I always have a friend.
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