RADIO CALL — TAPE #750 EXCERPT
Q: Mark Russell Bell
S: “Coast to Coast AM” screener
G: George Noory, host of “Coast to Coast AM”
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I DIALED “COAST TO COAST AM” ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 30, 2002 AS THE FIRST HOUR OF THE SHOW WAS CONCLUDING DURING AN EVENING OF “OPEN LINES.” DURING THAT FIRST HOUR, CALLERS’ SUBJECTS INCLUDED GUARDIAN ANGELS AND SHADOW PEOPLE. I FELT THAT I NEEDED TO COMMUNICATE RECENT EXPERIENCES I’D BEEN TRYING TO IGNORE YET I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT MY CALL COULD BE PREMATURELY TERMINATED. MOMENTS AFTER THE START OF THE BROADCAST, GEORGE NOORY SAID THAT NEXT WEDNESDAY WOULD BE THE DATE WHEN HE’D “HAND BACK THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM OF NYE TO ART BELL AS WE AWAIT HIS TRIUMPHANT RETURN.” NEWS STORIES READ BY NOORY CONCERNED AN INVESTIGATION BY THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION INTO A POSSIBLE COVER-UP AT AN OHIO POWER PLANT FOLLOWING A MARCH REPORT OF THE MOST EXTENSIVE CORROSION EVER FOUND AT A U.S. REACTOR, DUE TO A LEAK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPORTED FOUR YEARS AGO; AND MELTING SEA ICE APPARENTLY CAUSING POPULATIONS OF ANTARCTIC SEABIRDS TO DECLINE.)
S: “Coast to Coast.” Can I get your first name please?
Q: Yes. My name is Mark.
S: Where are you calling from tonight?
Q: From Canoga Park.
S: What state?
Q: In California.
S: What’s your question?
Q: I wanted to comment on coincidences.
S: Okay. Keep listening. When you hear the wild card called, you’ll be up.
Q: Thank you.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I LISTENED TO THE BROADCAST WHILE ON HOLD FOR MORE THAN A HALF HOUR. DURING THE BREAKS, THERE WERE NUMEROUS SHOW AND NEWSLETTER PROMOS AND “USA RADIO NETWORK NEWS.” SUBJECTS DISCUSSED BY CALLERS INCLUDED LIQUID HYDROGEN AS AN ALTERNATE FUEL SOURCE AND COINCIDENCES. DURING ONE CONVERSATION, GEORGE NOORY SAID THAT HE HAD SPENT NINE YEARS IN THE NAVY AS A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. MY VOICE WAS VERT DRY DURING THE CALL AND EVIDENTLY SOME OF THE EVP/SPIRIT MESSAGES MIMICKED THIS CONDITION.)
G: . . . Let’s go back to the calls now. Let’s go to wild card caller (BEEP) Mike, California, you’re on “Coast to Coast.” Hi, Mike. (“I”)
Q: It’s Mark.
G: Okay. Hi there.
Q: But people are always doing that. I guess the theme of the show tonight is a — angels and coincidences.
G: Right. And speak up as loudly as you can, Mark.
Q: Okay. (“AND”) In my case (“I GUESS”) until you’ve experienced something that other people relegate as “paranormal,” you call it coincidence and then afterwards you call it coincide-ence.
G: (laughs)
Q: For example —
G: Possibly.
Q: For example, that man who was saved from drowning (“IT JUST”) was a coincide-ence that the other gentleman was there to save him. And something similar to that has happened to me, I might add but I guess what I would do is, having — after having my own spiritual experience where you might say that God and Christ revealed Themselves to me, I would encourage listeners to take this concept of consciousness and a conscious universe to the inevitable conclusion.
G: Yeah — what would that be?
Q: Well if there is a Superconscious organizing force — (“AND”) I’ve seen it demonstrated in my life and I might add that it is not devoid of personality — I guess the law of karma (“SORT OF”) refers to this. But since my experience where I was hearing disembodied spirits talking; and seeing objects materialize, you begin noticing things. In (“I”) fact, I’ve even noticed very timely messages on people’s T-shirts and bumper stickers. For example —
G: Like — like what? Give me an example.
Q: Well here in California you see personalized license plate numbers.
G: Sure.
Q: And there’s — I’ve seen a lot with little hearts in them. And then sometimes when you’re — when you’re in a bad mood and (“PERHAPS”) driving angrily or something, then you see “bitch” stickers. At least I do. And I guess a good sign for me would be the Betty Boop decals. I don’t know if (“YY”) — if you pay attention to when you’re driving.
G: Well I do but not for decals.
Q: Well recently I, (“HOW”) however, I’ve been very, very disturbed because I’ve been seeing this — an unbelievable number of pest control trucks. I mean it’s very discouraging when like (or “LIKE”) every other time you’re in the car you pass a pest control truck.
G: Why does that bother you?
Q: Well if you look at — (“WELL”) after my experiences and you do see the Superconscious mind at work, it’s almost like a warning. And I don’t think it’s just for me personally. Because when you consider what’s happening to the environment, (“YEAH”) it sort of all adds up. I would say also since my experience I would say finding words and anagrams within people’s names can be very revealing. And —
G: . . .but tell me more about the pest control trucks that you see. What do you mean it’s a warning? A warning of what? (“WELL”)
Q: I —
G: Would you (or “WOULD YOU”) —
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I COMPARED THE MICROCASSETTE RECORDING OF THE TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH THE TAPE OF THE BROADCAST AND THERE IS NO TRACE OF ANYTHING LIKE THESE TWO WORDS AUDIBLE ON THE MICROCASSETTE.)
Q: — I think that Spirit communicates to us on the level that we understand.
G: Well I believe that too.
Q: And I mean (“IF”) I’ve always thought, “Well if we can’t even keep our planet clean, we’ll have to be exterminated.” (“I MEAN I”) I remember when you had the gentleman about the Dead Sea scrolls on and he was talking about ‘bar eljon’ —
G: That was — that was —
Q: — which sort of sounds like alien. (“BUT IT WAS”)
G: — that was — that was Dr. Ken Hanson.
Q: That’s right. And he talked about finding a fragment that had mentioned the Son of God. Of course, this was pre-Jesus of Nazareth. And in my case, after my experience, (“I”) — I guess once you’ve had this experience you become sort of a messenger. And you find —
G: Well what — yeah but what happened to you?
Q: Well I was studying talking poltergeists at the time and I found a family living in Oklahoma, in Centrahoma that had a contemporary one living with them. And basically it wasn’t just one voice but it was different voices including aliens (“WHO”) were telling them stories.
G: A whole group of ’em maybe.
Q: Y(eah) — well yeah. I mean — I mean I basically collected a lot of the stories and when I got home and listened to the tapes — (“THIS IS”) this family’s quite well-known. They were on TV in a special. (“THEY”) Their names are — their last names are Bell and Mc Wethy.
G: I don’t need to hear their last names.
Q: Okay. But, anyway, after my —
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: SHOW PRODUCERS OR ENGINEERS AT THIS POINT TOOK MY CALL OFF THE AIR; HOWEVER, I WAS ALLOWED TO SPEAK A FEW ADDITIONAL MOMENTS AFTER GEORGE SAID, “HELLO?” THIS PROCESS CAN OFTEN BE HEARD OCCURRING DURING THE OPEN LINES PORTION OF THE SHOW. ONE ESPECIALLY BLATANT EXAMPLE OCCURRED ON SEPT. 23 WHEN A CALLER WAS CLAIMING THAT A PHOTO FROM THE BOOK A MAN ON THE MOON SHOWED SCIENTISTS WITH “AN ODD LOOK ON THEIR FACE STARING AT A PARTICULAR ROCK THAT [EDGAR] MITCHELL BROUGHT BACK. AND IF YOU BLOW THAT PICTURE UP, YOU’LL SEE PLAINLY THAT IT HAS THE FEATURES OF A HEAD WITH ALL THE MA[N’S] — ALL THE TEETH IN THE UPPER AND LOWER JAR OF THE ROCK . . . IT’S FOSSILIZED . . . HE’S HOLDING IT RIGHT INTO THE PLATE GLASS AND YOU CAN SEE PLAINLY THE TEETH AND THE EYE STRUCTURE AND THE FOREHEAD, EVERYTHING ON THAT ROCK.” GEORGE REPLIED, “WELL, YOU KNOW, EDGAR MITCHELL BELIEVES IN LIFE BEYOND THIS PLANET.” THE CALLER REPLIED, “SURE. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY NOW.” GEORGE THEN SAID, “MAYBE SO. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS. WHERE CAN I GET A PICTURE OF THIS PICTURE?” THERE WAS A PAUSE AND THEN GEORGE SAID “YOU’RE GONE” AND WENT TO ANOTHER CALL.)
Q: (off the air) — experience, I —
G: Hello?
Q: Yeah?
G: Ah.
Q: I mean I found these. (“I — I”) On my tapes of my interviews, there was all this electronic voice phenomena messages. And one of them for me was that I should not profit from the book that I was going to write with the family in any way.
G: Well that’s good for you because you should never do that. What you need to do is to just keep trying. But it sounds like you’ve got a lot of things happening in your life. Let’s go west of the Rockies. You (line disconnected)
( . . . )
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So it’s the morning after. I’m in bed feeling terrible about what I said. It’s after 9 a.m. I listened to the repeat broadcast at 3:30 in the morning. I don’t know. I just feel terrible. I wasn’t comfortable. I felt very nervous. I felt I had to call. I had to do something. Well you heard it. First of all, I very seldom drive angrily. I just had to say something quickly. I remembered Mr. KABC (“IF”) even though that’s not really a good excuse. And I didn’t mean to say that God would exterminate us. That’s obviously not what a God of Love would do and I tried to explain that in my Email that I sent to George.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I NO LONGER HAVE THE EMAIL THAT I SENT TO GEORGE BEFORE THE END OF THE EVENING’S BROADCAST.)
Q: We’re doing a very good job of exterminating ourselves unless something is done. Obviously. My experience driving wasn’t conveyed effectively. I didn’t specify the gazillions of Sentras I’ve seen in front of my car and all the many Jesus fish and all the variations. All the Jesus stickers. Anyway, it’s a very complex story. I mean I’ve called in dozens of times to attempt to explain my experience but I need much more time to do that, obviously. The reincarnation of Bel-Marduk — I mean it sounds like a joke even after all this time. When I read those Edgar Cayce channeled information transcripts about Ra-Ta and all the rest, I know — well I’ve had proof. The medallion. And in this life the parallels are uncanny. After being confined in the greedy corporate world of the Hollywood entertainment industry (as symbolized by the Paramount Pictures mountain logo), God released me. And now I would compare my life to that of a monk or someone in exile just like Bel-Marduk (after he was released from the mountain). People can be ostracized who desire to share an experience that does offer perspectives upon social problems. I remember some of the parallels in that lecture about the Dead Sea Scroll fragments. I would like to heal people of their sick ideas induced by our culture of celebrity, equating God as favoring certain individuals with success or money, prestige or fame, or a position of authority. I couldn’t believe it when George said he was a public information officer for the Air Force all those years. Hell, is he still one? I hope he doesn’t cover me up like all the rest. The spirit of giving and sharing may define God but not that of taking and keeping for oneself. How often do you hear that on the radio? Well the bumper music that evening I think is more effective at conveying God than I was. In fact, I’m going to do something different for a change and feature striking lyrics even though I might not have heard all of them. Right before I went on, I couldn’t believe it, again, that song from “Chess” even though the lyrics that were the most pivotal weren’t heard. And there have been meaningful lyrics in many other songs I’ve been hearing like “Circle of Life” even though that wasn’t one of the ones played as bumper music last night — God wants us to give back as much as we take and people don’t understand (“THE”) money that they make for themselves is wasted on stupid things that they don’t even need when it could be better used on those less fortunate and helping our planet. How few demonstrations of the rich — well there’ve been some: Bill Gates, Ted Turner. If I had a message to tell other people, I think it’s demonstrated in my experiences and that’s what I would concentrate on if I was a guest on the show. Each of us is responsible for the sins committed on behalf of an illusory company or country. The undiscovered country is that there is only one country — to borrow a phrase from one of the movies I worked on at Paramount. George mentioned (“AL”) several movies last night. There are points of reference in our sick celebrity culture. George, did you see “The Trouble With Angels”?—because then maybe that expresses my early life—with Rosalind Russell and Hayley Mills, who played a twin in a Disney movie. And all the other movies. “2001.” I mean how do you convey all of them — coincide-ences. My first Variety ad on the Paramount page that showed my tape recorder and it looked — it had been transformed by the process and it looked just like that big black object in “2001.” I can’t even remember what it’s called (Monolith) but you know what I mean. Anyway, I always repent after these bad experiences and pray that God will forgive me. And I think I wanted to talk about the pest control trucks because I don’t want to see them any more. For a while, I thought that God or Christ was taunting me, saying that, “Well if you think that I would do that to you then I will do that to you.” And I still think that that might be the case but I don’t know. People have got to do something. Anyway, I’m still just — it’s hard to verbalize my experience. And who do I think I am playing Jesus for others but someone has to do it. Anyway, that’s enough for now. I guess this is the kind of radio show I would have. I keep hearing ads for “The Jesus Christ Show” on our local KFI six to eight a.m. every Saturday morning. And all the promos are ridiculous and assinine. I’d be a much better — well I can’t be a radio show host, can I? — and be part of the evil corporate hierarchy. (“I”) But I can — could be maybe a permanent guest. Ohh and I — when I heard them play — rerun my call, I heard the EVP. At least, I don’t think it’s done by the producers of the show because I’ve heard it on every show I listen to, to varying extents. I guess the one time where I really began thinking that show personnel were hoaxing EVP (or manipulating content) was that time Richard Hoagland was on and he mentioned the producer of the show by name and then the laughter didn’t seem — didn’t even sound like him. And there’ve been so many cases—even in this last week’s case—of unattributed sounds or EVP inserted around statements that make it sound like the person’s laughing. Again I heard that this week (during an interview with a ufology topic). Anyway, so now I’ll spend my weekend transcribing this and adding it to my website with the other EVP tapes because EVP and unattributed sounds provide a mechanism that others can quickly distinguish in their own experience. How reassuring to know that there’s all this Love and help in our lives. George Noory has discussed Ouija Boards in the past. And after my experience I’m convinced that the process demonstrated on the board is going on constantly around all of us all the time. So forgive me, God, if I don’t say things correctly or if I accidentally lie. It’s hard to convey meanings quickly in an uncomfortable situation. Thank you for all your Gifts. If I was rich — if I had lots of money, I’d spend it on helping the disadvantaged of our planet: the people starving and the animals, all the homeless animals, the cast-offs, the kitties, the puppies. The story about the man who sleeps with the crocodile I think shows some of the promise of love and life in eternity with a forgiving, benevolent God as has been demonstrated in my own life. Money is best spent on giving back. Think of the garbage out there. Who needs videos? Who needs to see the movies in the first place? Video games? These are all just forms of mind control. Trash magazines. The propaganda. Everytime you can demonstrate to the world generosity throughout the world, you feel so much better and it gives others something to emulate other than the mindless TV shows and movies. Jim Carrey (“IS AN”) — prime example of using a sick process of self-enrichment and then keeping the profits for oneself. When he became rich, other than donating the money to the poor he began therapy to find some rationale for keeping the money. “Well other people do it” is an expected response. We’re each God. God works through us. We have to demonstrate to others those impulses. Well enough of my preaching — I’m — (“I”) feel better now that I’ve talked a little bit more and — what can I say?
( . . . )
Q: So I’m back from the gym. If you don’t have a lot of extra money, I think you live a healthier life than those who have lots of money and who eat decadently and live decadently, self-indulgently. Anyway, I did see a license plate number with a heart in it even though I almost missed it. But I saw it at the last moment. And when I turned on the radio, the first song that came on was:
If you don’t know Me by now You will never never never know Me . . .
(“If You Don’t Know Me By Now” performed by Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes)
Q: I’ve heard that before. That’s one of the songs that keep coming up when I’m in a bad mood. Last night when I said that about exterminating, I just didn’t think. I’m still troubled by it. I just feel terrible. Anyway, how often do we just not think before we respond?
( . . . )
Q: Well I just got finished listening to the first hour of Friday night’s show because while I was on hold or dialing, you can’t really listen that well. And now I’m thinking I might have mixed up a little bit the drowning story and the tram story, not that it makes a big difference. When that tram story was being told, at the end George thought it was a burp sound but it might have been EVP. The caller said, “Was that me?” So, apparently, he heard something and it sounded like it could’ve been EVP. That’s what makes it so hard sometimes is differentiating EVP from bizarre noises that people might make. He might have been laughing. People laugh oddly at times. Anyway, I’ll have fun transcribing tomorrow. I still don’t know how much of the show I’m going to add.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I HAD TRANSCRIBED A LARGE PORTION OF IT YET THEN THE COMPUTER DIFFICULTIES REQUIRED MY REDOING IT FOR THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME. I DECIDED ON AN EXCERPT WITH THE TRANSCRIPT OF MY CALL. ALSO HERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT LYRICS FOUND IN THE SONGS SELECTED AS BUMPER MUSIC DURING THE AUGUST 30TH SHOW.)
Dizzy I’m so dizzy, my head is spinning Like a whirlpool, it never ends . . .
(“Dizzy” performed by Vic Reeves)
. . . A new religion that’ll bring ya to your knees . . .
(“Black Velvet” performed by Alannah Myles)
. . . Come on baby Don’t fear the reaper Baby take my hand Don’t fear the reaper We’ll be able to fly Don’t fear the reaper . . .
(“[Don’t Fear] The Reaper” performed by Blue Oyster Cult)
Carly don’t be sad Life is crazy Life is mad Don’t be afraid Carly don’t be sad That’s your destiny The only chance Take it, take it in your hands
(“Carly’s Song” performed by Enigma)
. . . I don’t see you guys rating The kind of mate I’m contemplating . . .
(“One Night in Bangkok” performed by Murray Head)
. . . And who can say if your love grows As your heart chose Only time . . .
(“Only Time” performed by Enya)
. . . I’m hooked on a feeling I’m high on believing That you’re in love with me . . .
(“Hooked On A Feeling” performed by Blue Swede)
What the people need is a way to make them smile It ain’t so hard to do if you know how Got to get a message, get it on through . . .
(“Listen To The Music” performed by The Doobie Brothers)
. . . There’s gonna be a party all over the world I got a message on the radio, but where it came from I don’t really know And I heard these voices calling all over the world All over the world, everybody got the word Everybody everywhere is gonna feel it tonight
(“All Over The World” performed by ELO)
. . . Everybody’s looking for something Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused . . .
(“Sweet Dreams Are Made of This” performed by Eurythmics)
. . . Take me with you on this journey Where the boundaries of time are now tossed In cathedrals of the forest In the words of the tongues now lost Find the answers, ask the questions Find the roots of an ancient tree Take me dancing, take me singing . . .
(“Night Ride Across The Caucasus” performed by Loreena McKennitt)
. . . Home, to a new and a shiny place Make our bed, and we’ll say our grace Freedom’s light burning warm . . .
(“America” performed by Neil Diamond)
. . . I see friends shaking hands Saying “How do you do?” They’re even saying “I love you” I hear babies cry I watch them grow They’ll learn much more Than I’ll ever know And I think to myself What a wonderful world Yeah, I think to myself What a wonderful world Oh yeah
(“What a Wonderful World” performed by Louis Armstrong)
S: “Coast to Coast.” Can I get your first name please?
Q: Yes. My name is Mark.
S: Where are you calling from tonight?
Q: From Canoga Park.
S: What state?
Q: In California.
S: What’s your question?
Q: I wanted to comment on coincidences.
S: Okay. Keep listening. When you hear the wild card called, you’ll be up.
Q: Thank you.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I LISTENED TO THE BROADCAST WHILE ON HOLD FOR MORE THAN A HALF HOUR. DURING THE BREAKS, THERE WERE NUMEROUS SHOW AND NEWSLETTER PROMOS AND “USA RADIO NETWORK NEWS.” SUBJECTS DISCUSSED BY CALLERS INCLUDED LIQUID HYDROGEN AS AN ALTERNATE FUEL SOURCE AND COINCIDENCES. DURING ONE CONVERSATION, GEORGE NOORY SAID THAT HE HAD SPENT NINE YEARS IN THE NAVY AS A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. MY VOICE WAS VERT DRY DURING THE CALL AND EVIDENTLY SOME OF THE EVP/SPIRIT MESSAGES MIMICKED THIS CONDITION.)
G: . . . Let’s go back to the calls now. Let’s go to wild card caller (BEEP) Mike, California, you’re on “Coast to Coast.” Hi, Mike. (“I”)
Q: It’s Mark.
G: Okay. Hi there.
Q: But people are always doing that. I guess the theme of the show tonight is a — angels and coincidences.
G: Right. And speak up as loudly as you can, Mark.
Q: Okay. (“AND”) In my case (“I GUESS”) until you’ve experienced something that other people relegate as “paranormal,” you call it coincidence and then afterwards you call it coincide-ence.
G: (laughs)
Q: For example —
G: Possibly.
Q: For example, that man who was saved from drowning (“IT JUST”) was a coincide-ence that the other gentleman was there to save him. And something similar to that has happened to me, I might add but I guess what I would do is, having — after having my own spiritual experience where you might say that God and Christ revealed Themselves to me, I would encourage listeners to take this concept of consciousness and a conscious universe to the inevitable conclusion.
G: Yeah — what would that be?
Q: Well if there is a Superconscious organizing force — (“AND”) I’ve seen it demonstrated in my life and I might add that it is not devoid of personality — I guess the law of karma (“SORT OF”) refers to this. But since my experience where I was hearing disembodied spirits talking; and seeing objects materialize, you begin noticing things. In (“I”) fact, I’ve even noticed very timely messages on people’s T-shirts and bumper stickers. For example —
G: Like — like what? Give me an example.
Q: Well here in California you see personalized license plate numbers.
G: Sure.
Q: And there’s — I’ve seen a lot with little hearts in them. And then sometimes when you’re — when you’re in a bad mood and (“PERHAPS”) driving angrily or something, then you see “bitch” stickers. At least I do. And I guess a good sign for me would be the Betty Boop decals. I don’t know if (“YY”) — if you pay attention to when you’re driving.
G: Well I do but not for decals.
Q: Well recently I, (“HOW”) however, I’ve been very, very disturbed because I’ve been seeing this — an unbelievable number of pest control trucks. I mean it’s very discouraging when like (or “LIKE”) every other time you’re in the car you pass a pest control truck.
G: Why does that bother you?
Q: Well if you look at — (“WELL”) after my experiences and you do see the Superconscious mind at work, it’s almost like a warning. And I don’t think it’s just for me personally. Because when you consider what’s happening to the environment, (“YEAH”) it sort of all adds up. I would say also since my experience I would say finding words and anagrams within people’s names can be very revealing. And —
G: . . .but tell me more about the pest control trucks that you see. What do you mean it’s a warning? A warning of what? (“WELL”)
Q: I —
G: Would you (or “WOULD YOU”) —
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I COMPARED THE MICROCASSETTE RECORDING OF THE TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH THE TAPE OF THE BROADCAST AND THERE IS NO TRACE OF ANYTHING LIKE THESE TWO WORDS AUDIBLE ON THE MICROCASSETTE.)
Q: — I think that Spirit communicates to us on the level that we understand.
G: Well I believe that too.
Q: And I mean (“IF”) I’ve always thought, “Well if we can’t even keep our planet clean, we’ll have to be exterminated.” (“I MEAN I”) I remember when you had the gentleman about the Dead Sea scrolls on and he was talking about ‘bar eljon’ —
G: That was — that was —
Q: — which sort of sounds like alien. (“BUT IT WAS”)
G: — that was — that was Dr. Ken Hanson.
Q: That’s right. And he talked about finding a fragment that had mentioned the Son of God. Of course, this was pre-Jesus of Nazareth. And in my case, after my experience, (“I”) — I guess once you’ve had this experience you become sort of a messenger. And you find —
G: Well what — yeah but what happened to you?
Q: Well I was studying talking poltergeists at the time and I found a family living in Oklahoma, in Centrahoma that had a contemporary one living with them. And basically it wasn’t just one voice but it was different voices including aliens (“WHO”) were telling them stories.
G: A whole group of ’em maybe.
Q: Y(eah) — well yeah. I mean — I mean I basically collected a lot of the stories and when I got home and listened to the tapes — (“THIS IS”) this family’s quite well-known. They were on TV in a special. (“THEY”) Their names are — their last names are Bell and Mc Wethy.
G: I don’t need to hear their last names.
Q: Okay. But, anyway, after my —
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: SHOW PRODUCERS OR ENGINEERS AT THIS POINT TOOK MY CALL OFF THE AIR; HOWEVER, I WAS ALLOWED TO SPEAK A FEW ADDITIONAL MOMENTS AFTER GEORGE SAID, “HELLO?” THIS PROCESS CAN OFTEN BE HEARD OCCURRING DURING THE OPEN LINES PORTION OF THE SHOW. ONE ESPECIALLY BLATANT EXAMPLE OCCURRED ON SEPT. 23 WHEN A CALLER WAS CLAIMING THAT A PHOTO FROM THE BOOK A MAN ON THE MOON SHOWED SCIENTISTS WITH “AN ODD LOOK ON THEIR FACE STARING AT A PARTICULAR ROCK THAT [EDGAR] MITCHELL BROUGHT BACK. AND IF YOU BLOW THAT PICTURE UP, YOU’LL SEE PLAINLY THAT IT HAS THE FEATURES OF A HEAD WITH ALL THE MA[N’S] — ALL THE TEETH IN THE UPPER AND LOWER JAR OF THE ROCK . . . IT’S FOSSILIZED . . . HE’S HOLDING IT RIGHT INTO THE PLATE GLASS AND YOU CAN SEE PLAINLY THE TEETH AND THE EYE STRUCTURE AND THE FOREHEAD, EVERYTHING ON THAT ROCK.” GEORGE REPLIED, “WELL, YOU KNOW, EDGAR MITCHELL BELIEVES IN LIFE BEYOND THIS PLANET.” THE CALLER REPLIED, “SURE. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY NOW.” GEORGE THEN SAID, “MAYBE SO. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS. WHERE CAN I GET A PICTURE OF THIS PICTURE?” THERE WAS A PAUSE AND THEN GEORGE SAID “YOU’RE GONE” AND WENT TO ANOTHER CALL.)
Q: (off the air) — experience, I —
G: Hello?
Q: Yeah?
G: Ah.
Q: I mean I found these. (“I — I”) On my tapes of my interviews, there was all this electronic voice phenomena messages. And one of them for me was that I should not profit from the book that I was going to write with the family in any way.
G: Well that’s good for you because you should never do that. What you need to do is to just keep trying. But it sounds like you’ve got a lot of things happening in your life. Let’s go west of the Rockies. You (line disconnected)
( . . . )
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So it’s the morning after. I’m in bed feeling terrible about what I said. It’s after 9 a.m. I listened to the repeat broadcast at 3:30 in the morning. I don’t know. I just feel terrible. I wasn’t comfortable. I felt very nervous. I felt I had to call. I had to do something. Well you heard it. First of all, I very seldom drive angrily. I just had to say something quickly. I remembered Mr. KABC (“IF”) even though that’s not really a good excuse. And I didn’t mean to say that God would exterminate us. That’s obviously not what a God of Love would do and I tried to explain that in my Email that I sent to George.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I NO LONGER HAVE THE EMAIL THAT I SENT TO GEORGE BEFORE THE END OF THE EVENING’S BROADCAST.)
Q: We’re doing a very good job of exterminating ourselves unless something is done. Obviously. My experience driving wasn’t conveyed effectively. I didn’t specify the gazillions of Sentras I’ve seen in front of my car and all the many Jesus fish and all the variations. All the Jesus stickers. Anyway, it’s a very complex story. I mean I’ve called in dozens of times to attempt to explain my experience but I need much more time to do that, obviously. The reincarnation of Bel-Marduk — I mean it sounds like a joke even after all this time. When I read those Edgar Cayce channeled information transcripts about Ra-Ta and all the rest, I know — well I’ve had proof. The medallion. And in this life the parallels are uncanny. After being confined in the greedy corporate world of the Hollywood entertainment industry (as symbolized by the Paramount Pictures mountain logo), God released me. And now I would compare my life to that of a monk or someone in exile just like Bel-Marduk (after he was released from the mountain). People can be ostracized who desire to share an experience that does offer perspectives upon social problems. I remember some of the parallels in that lecture about the Dead Sea Scroll fragments. I would like to heal people of their sick ideas induced by our culture of celebrity, equating God as favoring certain individuals with success or money, prestige or fame, or a position of authority. I couldn’t believe it when George said he was a public information officer for the Air Force all those years. Hell, is he still one? I hope he doesn’t cover me up like all the rest. The spirit of giving and sharing may define God but not that of taking and keeping for oneself. How often do you hear that on the radio? Well the bumper music that evening I think is more effective at conveying God than I was. In fact, I’m going to do something different for a change and feature striking lyrics even though I might not have heard all of them. Right before I went on, I couldn’t believe it, again, that song from “Chess” even though the lyrics that were the most pivotal weren’t heard. And there have been meaningful lyrics in many other songs I’ve been hearing like “Circle of Life” even though that wasn’t one of the ones played as bumper music last night — God wants us to give back as much as we take and people don’t understand (“THE”) money that they make for themselves is wasted on stupid things that they don’t even need when it could be better used on those less fortunate and helping our planet. How few demonstrations of the rich — well there’ve been some: Bill Gates, Ted Turner. If I had a message to tell other people, I think it’s demonstrated in my experiences and that’s what I would concentrate on if I was a guest on the show. Each of us is responsible for the sins committed on behalf of an illusory company or country. The undiscovered country is that there is only one country — to borrow a phrase from one of the movies I worked on at Paramount. George mentioned (“AL”) several movies last night. There are points of reference in our sick celebrity culture. George, did you see “The Trouble With Angels”?—because then maybe that expresses my early life—with Rosalind Russell and Hayley Mills, who played a twin in a Disney movie. And all the other movies. “2001.” I mean how do you convey all of them — coincide-ences. My first Variety ad on the Paramount page that showed my tape recorder and it looked — it had been transformed by the process and it looked just like that big black object in “2001.” I can’t even remember what it’s called (Monolith) but you know what I mean. Anyway, I always repent after these bad experiences and pray that God will forgive me. And I think I wanted to talk about the pest control trucks because I don’t want to see them any more. For a while, I thought that God or Christ was taunting me, saying that, “Well if you think that I would do that to you then I will do that to you.” And I still think that that might be the case but I don’t know. People have got to do something. Anyway, I’m still just — it’s hard to verbalize my experience. And who do I think I am playing Jesus for others but someone has to do it. Anyway, that’s enough for now. I guess this is the kind of radio show I would have. I keep hearing ads for “The Jesus Christ Show” on our local KFI six to eight a.m. every Saturday morning. And all the promos are ridiculous and assinine. I’d be a much better — well I can’t be a radio show host, can I? — and be part of the evil corporate hierarchy. (“I”) But I can — could be maybe a permanent guest. Ohh and I — when I heard them play — rerun my call, I heard the EVP. At least, I don’t think it’s done by the producers of the show because I’ve heard it on every show I listen to, to varying extents. I guess the one time where I really began thinking that show personnel were hoaxing EVP (or manipulating content) was that time Richard Hoagland was on and he mentioned the producer of the show by name and then the laughter didn’t seem — didn’t even sound like him. And there’ve been so many cases—even in this last week’s case—of unattributed sounds or EVP inserted around statements that make it sound like the person’s laughing. Again I heard that this week (during an interview with a ufology topic). Anyway, so now I’ll spend my weekend transcribing this and adding it to my website with the other EVP tapes because EVP and unattributed sounds provide a mechanism that others can quickly distinguish in their own experience. How reassuring to know that there’s all this Love and help in our lives. George Noory has discussed Ouija Boards in the past. And after my experience I’m convinced that the process demonstrated on the board is going on constantly around all of us all the time. So forgive me, God, if I don’t say things correctly or if I accidentally lie. It’s hard to convey meanings quickly in an uncomfortable situation. Thank you for all your Gifts. If I was rich — if I had lots of money, I’d spend it on helping the disadvantaged of our planet: the people starving and the animals, all the homeless animals, the cast-offs, the kitties, the puppies. The story about the man who sleeps with the crocodile I think shows some of the promise of love and life in eternity with a forgiving, benevolent God as has been demonstrated in my own life. Money is best spent on giving back. Think of the garbage out there. Who needs videos? Who needs to see the movies in the first place? Video games? These are all just forms of mind control. Trash magazines. The propaganda. Everytime you can demonstrate to the world generosity throughout the world, you feel so much better and it gives others something to emulate other than the mindless TV shows and movies. Jim Carrey (“IS AN”) — prime example of using a sick process of self-enrichment and then keeping the profits for oneself. When he became rich, other than donating the money to the poor he began therapy to find some rationale for keeping the money. “Well other people do it” is an expected response. We’re each God. God works through us. We have to demonstrate to others those impulses. Well enough of my preaching — I’m — (“I”) feel better now that I’ve talked a little bit more and — what can I say?
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Q: So I’m back from the gym. If you don’t have a lot of extra money, I think you live a healthier life than those who have lots of money and who eat decadently and live decadently, self-indulgently. Anyway, I did see a license plate number with a heart in it even though I almost missed it. But I saw it at the last moment. And when I turned on the radio, the first song that came on was:
If you don’t know Me by now You will never never never know Me . . .
(“If You Don’t Know Me By Now” performed by Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes)
Q: I’ve heard that before. That’s one of the songs that keep coming up when I’m in a bad mood. Last night when I said that about exterminating, I just didn’t think. I’m still troubled by it. I just feel terrible. Anyway, how often do we just not think before we respond?
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Q: Well I just got finished listening to the first hour of Friday night’s show because while I was on hold or dialing, you can’t really listen that well. And now I’m thinking I might have mixed up a little bit the drowning story and the tram story, not that it makes a big difference. When that tram story was being told, at the end George thought it was a burp sound but it might have been EVP. The caller said, “Was that me?” So, apparently, he heard something and it sounded like it could’ve been EVP. That’s what makes it so hard sometimes is differentiating EVP from bizarre noises that people might make. He might have been laughing. People laugh oddly at times. Anyway, I’ll have fun transcribing tomorrow. I still don’t know how much of the show I’m going to add.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I HAD TRANSCRIBED A LARGE PORTION OF IT YET THEN THE COMPUTER DIFFICULTIES REQUIRED MY REDOING IT FOR THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME. I DECIDED ON AN EXCERPT WITH THE TRANSCRIPT OF MY CALL. ALSO HERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT LYRICS FOUND IN THE SONGS SELECTED AS BUMPER MUSIC DURING THE AUGUST 30TH SHOW.)
Dizzy I’m so dizzy, my head is spinning Like a whirlpool, it never ends . . .
(“Dizzy” performed by Vic Reeves)
. . . A new religion that’ll bring ya to your knees . . .
(“Black Velvet” performed by Alannah Myles)
. . . Come on baby Don’t fear the reaper Baby take my hand Don’t fear the reaper We’ll be able to fly Don’t fear the reaper . . .
(“[Don’t Fear] The Reaper” performed by Blue Oyster Cult)
Carly don’t be sad Life is crazy Life is mad Don’t be afraid Carly don’t be sad That’s your destiny The only chance Take it, take it in your hands
(“Carly’s Song” performed by Enigma)
. . . I don’t see you guys rating The kind of mate I’m contemplating . . .
(“One Night in Bangkok” performed by Murray Head)
. . . And who can say if your love grows As your heart chose Only time . . .
(“Only Time” performed by Enya)
. . . I’m hooked on a feeling I’m high on believing That you’re in love with me . . .
(“Hooked On A Feeling” performed by Blue Swede)
What the people need is a way to make them smile It ain’t so hard to do if you know how Got to get a message, get it on through . . .
(“Listen To The Music” performed by The Doobie Brothers)
. . . There’s gonna be a party all over the world I got a message on the radio, but where it came from I don’t really know And I heard these voices calling all over the world All over the world, everybody got the word Everybody everywhere is gonna feel it tonight
(“All Over The World” performed by ELO)
. . . Everybody’s looking for something Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused . . .
(“Sweet Dreams Are Made of This” performed by Eurythmics)
. . . Take me with you on this journey Where the boundaries of time are now tossed In cathedrals of the forest In the words of the tongues now lost Find the answers, ask the questions Find the roots of an ancient tree Take me dancing, take me singing . . .
(“Night Ride Across The Caucasus” performed by Loreena McKennitt)
. . . Home, to a new and a shiny place Make our bed, and we’ll say our grace Freedom’s light burning warm . . .
(“America” performed by Neil Diamond)
. . . I see friends shaking hands Saying “How do you do?” They’re even saying “I love you” I hear babies cry I watch them grow They’ll learn much more Than I’ll ever know And I think to myself What a wonderful world Yeah, I think to myself What a wonderful world Oh yeah
(“What a Wonderful World” performed by Louis Armstrong)
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