RADIO CALL —
TAPES #702 THROUGH #704 EXCERPTS
Q: Mark Russell Bell
S: “Coast to Coast AM” radio show operators
I: Ian Punnett, host of “Coast to Coast AM”
A: Art Bell, commercial spokesperson
R: Robert, caller from Canada
B: Barbara Simpson, host of “Coast to Coast AM”
C: Sean, caller from Cleveland
R: Ross Mitchell, taped announcements for “Coast to Coast AM”
K: Kirk, caller from unannounced city
W: Whitley Strieber, guest on “Coast to Coast AM”
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I CALLED “COAST TO COAST AM” ON MONDAY, JULY 2, 2001. THIS WAS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL CALLS TO THE RADIO SHOW IN A SEVEN-DAY PERIOD.)
S: Thank you for calling “Coast to Coast AM” Can I get your first name please?
Q: It’s Mark.
S: Where are you calling from, Mark?
Q: L.A.
S: Alright. Hold on the line and we’ll get you up as soon as we can.
Q: Great.
I: . . . to think about the future — the future of mankind and machines. It’s a book about the astounding potential of cybernetics and, perhaps, it is a wake-up call to all humankind. The book is called Beyond Humanity: CyberEvolution and Future Minds. And to paraphrase Mr. Cox, this show will not be science fiction. It will be science speculation. Not sci-fi but sci-spec. What we’re going to ask you to do on this show may be difficult because we’re going to ask you to discount what sci-fi has taught you about robots and cyberintelligence. Indeed, the sci-spec ship on which we are sailing is headed far beyond the horizons of most science fiction. And it will amaze you. It will perhaps rightfully terrify you. We’ll get started next hour with Oral D. Cox. We’ll do open lines this hour. And I will not be doing much in the way of crypto-news. However, I do have an important story to read, one which explains why Art is not on tonight but why he will be back on Thursday. And why I’m sitting in for the rest of this show on “Coast to Coast AM.” You don’t want to miss this announcement next. My name’s Ian Punnett. (commercial segue)
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I: I have a few stories that might fit nicely into a crypto newscast. I’ll save them for tomorrow night when I’ll also be filling in for Art Bell. My name is Ian Punnett. And Art’s off tonight for a reason. Those of you with the Internet know probably some of this already. Those of you who don’t — I would like to explain a bit. This is how it all started. Again. A columnist of “Showbiz Tidbits,” a woman who I believe is named Leah Salterio, a woman for the — a writer for Philippine Daily Inquirer decided to take a chance. She decided to break the old journalistic rule of multiple sources for a story and wrote her entire Sunday showbiz column about an Email she received from another journalist who was spreading rumors. You know, there’s another journalistic rule that says one journalist should never trust the other journalist for a story but I think we could spend a whole show on what this woman did wrong. The important thing here to mention is the effect that it’s had on all of us. The story was headlined “U.S. Talk Radio Host Insults Filipinos On Internet.” Some of you may already know where this is going. I read the words of Leah Salterio: “We received Email from our Singapore-based friend Jennifer Alejandro, a former ABS/CBN news anchor and field reporter who now works with Channel News Asia. Jenny apparently only forwarded the Email to us with the note, ‘Please pass this on to every Filipino you know.’ The article is written” — they call it an article — “by a certain Art Bell, a talk radio host who broadcasts his show from his home in Nevada. The program is aired over 400 stations across the United States. In the article ‘Filipinos Make Me Puke'” — they’re calling it an article — “Bell lambastes Filipinos, our culture and way of life. The piece is so degrading that it’s important that after reading it no one attacks him but responds to him in a civilized manner because otherwise his thoughts will be reaffirmed. We are printing excerpts from Bell’s article. ‘The Philippines is a third world country. Nothing respectable has ever been created by Filipino people during our entire human history. Nothing good has ever come from Phillippines and I don’t believe anything good ever will. In Japan, Filipinos are heavily discriminated against. The only Filipinos that can live successfully in Japan are the Filipino prostitutes. Nothing in Filipino culture can be seen as Asian. They have no architectural, artistic or cultural influence which is in any way Asian, thinking of the great countries in Asia such as Japan, Korea and China. To all Filipino people, please recognize your roots. You come from the Third World. Your country is disgusting and filthy place. Most people there live in poverty. Your culture has much more Spanish influence than Chinese and absolutely no Japanese influence whatsoever. People in Japan and China do not act like you. There is no way you can connect yourself to Asia other than location. Your culture and technological advancement does not even come close to what Chinese people have done in the past and what Japanese and Korean people are doing right now. Everything you do is distinctly Filipino. You cannot take credit for Japanese cars, video games and'” — I’ve been trying to read this word all day — “‘Hentai.'” I have no idea what it is. “‘You have no concept of culture, no concept of Asian ideas or philosophy. Can you demonstrate how you use Confucianism or Taoism in your everyday life? You can’t and you never will be able to. I understand that you are trying to create an identity for yourselves as young people but it is not related to Asia. Your identity is Filipino. That’s all you are. Just Filipino. Think about what that means.'” And at the bottom of the so-called article—as the columnist was so kind to print—were some Email addresses for Art Bell. You know, even just reading this out loud, it just seems ludicrous that somebody, even a third party reading it for the first time, would think this is written by an American. It’s so clearly written by somebody from Japan trashing Filipinos — I mean certainly that’s what it sounds like. Anyway, as you might have read on the Drudge Report, the international reaction to the printing of this story was immediate and dangerous: “Talk Radio Sensation Art Bell Victim of Global Smear Campaign.” That’s what Drudge printed. I’ll read you a little bit of his copy. “Overnight talk radio sensation Art Bell has been falsely labeled a Filipino-basher after a phony Email message signed Art Bell makes its way around the digital world and finally into print, reproduced in the leading Philippine newspaper. The phony Bell message has been posted repeatedly on newsgroups. It has been referenced in chatrooms. One posting has been traced to the library computer lab, the University of California at San Diego.” Quote “‘This vicious writing is so obviously a fraud to anybody who listens to Bell’s program and to those of us who know Bell personally,’ said a close source to the radio host. What is so surprising and alarming is how it has spread. Now a newspaper halfway around the world has gone and published it.” Indeed, the Email response was predictably ugly or violent or both. “Art Bell, honestly I know that I’m just wasting my time writing this to you because you’re most definitely not worth my time at all. Because you are an insult to the human race. I just hope and pray to God that you die very soon because you are the biggest insult not only to us Filipinos, who are the real chosen people of God, but to the human race, you idiot. And, by the way, say my hello to Satan when you get to see that brother of yours soon enough. May God still have mercy on you for what you did.” Another Emailer to Art: “How dare you treat us like that. Why don’t you look at yourself in the mirror before you insult us. You guys are racist. I curse you. I wish you will grow so old that you’ll live a very painful life.” And it gets worse. A woman named Annie writes Art Bell to say: “Just hope that you realize what you have just done and what I’ve heard all the people in the Philippines are mad and planning to take an action against you.” More specifically, he got an anonymous Email saying, “Never attempt to visit the Philippines because we will cut all your heads.” And there’s more on that: “Mr. Bell, it seems you’re out in your mind when you lambasted Filipinos. Go to the Philippines and I will tell” — and I’m going to leave this person unnamed — “I will tell” — an individual who shall remain nameless — “to kidnap you and remove your head from your body. Who are you to speak to Filipinos that way?” In fact, that person who was named in the previous Email appears to have written — wrote back and said this: “Greetings by the name of Allah. I’m just a hired computer typist of a” — and this is the name of a terrorist group. “Please, I don’t mean to write this, okay, as long as some of my words are not readable by this terrorist group. Maybe later they cut off my head like my friend Ronald.” He goes on to say: “The terrorists have just been sent a letter from someone in there in the U.S. They say they will give anything to them just for the head of Art Bell. Even this mail is not so hard to track in by your security. I just been thinking that you must leave your home and warn those relatives of yours there because there’s someone hired in this group to kill you. Please you must leave there because.” As you can understand, on the artbell.com website, Art was compelled to deny this again as he has done for years. “Open Letter To My Listeners.” Those of you that don’t have computer access, I’ll read this in part for you. “July 1st, 2001. Another event in the seemingly never ending strange series of events in my life occurred which will prevent me from being on the air this week. A horrible racist article, which has been on the Internet for three years despite all our best efforts, has just been published by the Philippine Daily Inquirer, the largest circulation newspaper in that country. This has resulted in hundreds of Emails and death threats to me and my family. Even the slightest effort on their part would have resulted in the truth before rushing to publish. The article appeared in the entertainment section of the Sunday edition. As many of you I hope are aware, I did not write this trash and never would. In fact, my wife is half Filipino. It was originally sent from a computer located at UCSD in Southern California. They have sent an apology which has been posted on this website for almost three years. Over that period of time, every enquiry has been answered by myself, my webmaster and the network. We are presently taking all legal steps possible. However, in the meantime there is a very real physical danger to my family and myself. This will require my full attention for the moment.” Following are excerpts from that legal response to the publishers and the various editors for the Philippine Daily Inquirer. “Dear Interested Parties, Our law firm represents Art Bell, who has been grossly defamed by your publications. We demand that you immediately correct the libelous and false like statements published on or about June 30th in the Philippine Daily Inquirer and on the Internet and other publications affiliated with your company. These statements are extremely provocative and likely to incite violence against their author. The charge that Mr. Bell wrote the Email is a statement of fact. The statement is false. Even a cursory glance at Mr. Bell’s website or an inquiry sent to Mr. Bell or his representatives would have established the Email was a fraudulent Internet posting not written by Art Bell. The fact that Mr. Bell had nothing to do with the Email could have been established with the most minimal application of journalistic due diligence yet your publication disregarded all standards of journalistic integrity and simply published the fake Email for the entire world to see. This evidences a most reckless disregard for the truth. Demand is hereby made that the articles publishing the Email attributed to Mr. Bell be retracted in the most conspicuous way possible and in numerous issues of your publications. Sincerely, Gerard P. Fox” of Fox and Spillane in Los Angeles. As a result, this retraction will appear roughly tomorrow morning or about this time in the Philippines several days after the original article in a, you know, Tuesday/mid-week publication not nearly the circulation of a Sunday paper but here’s what they have written. “Radio Talk Show Host Art Bell Not Behind Insulting Email.” The same columnist, Leah Salterio, wrote this. “Nevada-based radio talk show host Art Bell is in no way connected to a malicious and vile Email that insults Filipinos and that has been attributed to him.” She should add by me but anyway — little editorial. Quote: “‘The charge that Mr. Bell wrote this Email is a statement of fact,’ Bell’s legal counsel said in a letter faxed to the Inquirer from Los Angeles. ‘This statement is false. Even a cursory glance at Mr. Bell’s website or an inquiry sent to Mr. Bell or his representatives would have established the Email was a fraudulent Internet posting not written by Art Bell.'” And she goes on to say, “We did not check out Bell’s website when we received the Email forwarded by Alejandro. When we finally did look at it, it turned out Bell had printed this denial more than two years ago. The Inquirer apologizes for its failure to investigate the source of the Email. It regrets the error. Meanwhile, Channel News Asia newscaster Jennifer Alejandro, who is based in Singapore, forwarded the Email to the Inquirer. It was the subject of this column last Sunday. The Email contained offensive statements.” And she goes on to reaffirm that this is, in fact, not from Art Bell and with a minimal amount of apology posted this retraction. Well it’s anyone’s guess whether in newspaper parlance this retraction will put this story to bed. What can be known and what should not be forgotten is that Art Bell is one of the kindest men in broadcasting. I just spoke with him again earlier this afternoon. And whenever I speak with him the word gentle always comes to mind. Perhaps, it’s just because of his disposition and his reputation that Art has once more been victimized through a vicious, libelous campaign that took on a life of its own. But it is the hope of all of us associated with “Coast to Coast” that Art and Ramona enjoy the rest of their time off, their Fourth of July holiday and that Art Bell will return to the air as expected this Thursday, refreshed, relieved and with this egregious lapse of journalistic ethics behind him. And I thank him for the opportunity to help set the record straight. We’ve got a full half hour of open lines to get to and you can feel free to comment on what you have heard or take us into entirely new directions — what open lines are all about. But you do not want to miss next hour as we go well beyond the imaginations of science fiction writers to talk about the real probabilities of artificial intelligence with a guy who knows A.I., Earl D. Cox, next hour on “Coast to Coast AM” In for Art Bell, my name’s Ian Punnett.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: BUMPER MUSIC HERE IS “READY FOR THE TIMES TO GET BETTER” PERFORMED BY CRYSTAL GAYLE. A COMMERCIAL FOR THE SHOW’S TIE-IN NEWSLETTER IS THEN FOLLOWED BY MULTIPLE PROGRAM PROMOS. BUMPER MUSIC FOR THE SECOND HALF HOUR IS “DON’T BRING ME DOWN” PERFORMED BY ELO.)
I: “I’ll tell you once more before I get off the floor” — that’s the best song ever written about somebody’s business manager. It’s a long rock and roll story. Let’s go right to open lines. And thank you all for holding on as long as you have. It’ll be a great show next hour with the look into the future of artificial intelligence hot on the heels of the big new summer blockbuster movie from Steven Spielberg. But first let’s go west of the Rockies where Mark (BEEP) is in L.A. on “Coast to Coast AM” to get us started. Mark?
Q: Hi, Ian.
I: Hi.
Q: So now that you’ve been hosting a so-called paranormal show for a while, I’ve come up with a good question for you.
I: Was that pure normal or paranormal?
Q: I think it’s pure normal. (“BUT”) If it’s not explained correctly, it can seem paranormal.
I: Okay. I was just curious. Go away — go ahead.
Q: But, anyway — but first I guess I should follow up my previous calls about EVP and Angelic guidance and all that and see if you have any comment you’d like to make about the testament.org website.
I: I haven’t been to that website so that’s a sneaky way of slipping that in there but, anyway, what was your question?
Q: Okay, well — no, it’s not really sneaky because (“A”) it was a year and a half ago when I called Rollye James and complained about Art, Whitley and Hilly covering me up.
I: Well, okay, but you see here you go again. It jus — no —
Q: Well, no — and all the Email and everything. But my question is tonight — when you consider the succession of callers and certain synchronicities, how aware are you of the guidance of a Superconscious Mind occasionally communicating to you through the subconscious of the callers in terms of the sequence of calls, the technology in terms of what calls come in through the phone lines, etc. I mean I’ve shown my own experiences at the testament.org website.
I: There you go again. Would you stop — this is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then?
Q: Well someone’s got to plug it. I want to show that not everyone who’s had paranormal experiences has been a guest on your show.
I: . . . It actually is an intriguing quita (or “QUITA”) — question but I’m going to deny you an answer because (line disconnected)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: DURING MY RESPONSE, I DIDN’T HEAR IAN’S VOICE IN THE BACKGROUND UNTIL AFTER SAYING THE WORD “EVERYONE.” I SIMULTANEOUSLY WAS RECORDING THE BROADCAST ON MY RADIO CASSETTE RECORDER AND LATER I WAS SURPRISED TO DISCOVER THAT WHAT I HAD TAPED FROM THE TELEPHONE RECEIVER WAS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WAS HEARD ON THE BROADCAST. THE FOLLOWING IS A TRANSCRIPT OF THE BROADCAST SHOWING WHERE PUNNETT TWICE HIT SOME KIND OF EDIT BUTTON. I HAVE MARKED THESE PLACES [1] AND [2] FOR EASY REFERENCE.)
Q: Hi, Ian.
I: Hi.
Q: So now that you’ve been hosting a so-called paranormal show for a while, I’ve come up with a good question for you.
I: Was that pure normal or paranormal?
Q: I think it’s pure normal. (“BUT”) If it’s not explained correctly, it can seem paranormal.
I: Okay. I was just curious. Go away — go ahead.
Q: But, anyway — but first I guess I should follow up my previous calls about EVP and Angelic guidance and all that and see if you have any comment you’d like to make about the testament.org website.
I: I haven’t been to that website so that’s a sneaky way of [1] — anyway, what was your question?
Q: Okay, well — no, it’s not really sneaky because (“A”) it was a year and a half ago when I called Rollye James and complained about Art, Whitley and Hilly covering me up.
I: Well, okay, but you see here you go again. It jus — no —
Q: Well, no — and all the Email and everything. But my question is tonight — when you consider the succession of callers and certain synchronicities, how aware are you of the guidance of a Superconscious Mind occasionally communicating to you through the subconscious of the callers in terms of the sequence of calls, the technology in terms of what calls come in through the phone lines, etc. I mean I’ve shown my own experiences at the testament.org web [2] —
I: Would you stop — this is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then? Let’s just bag it right now. If you want to have a conversation, I’m great with that. And it actually is an intriguing quita (or “QUITA”) — question but I’m going to deny you an answer because you turned this into an infomercial. So cut it out and grow up. Grow a spine and call back some year. Let’s go to the first-time caller line where Robert is in Canada on “Coast to Coast AM.” Robert?
R: Good morning. How are you?
I: Good. It’s open lines. Where are you going to take us? Hopefully, not to plug your business.
R: Well I don’t think — (small laugh)
I: Please don’t mention, you know, Bob’s meat company or something like it, okay?
R: (laughs) I just wanted to send my condolences, firstly, to Art and his wife. I think that scurrilous and underhanded behavior for the last three years has destroyed a lot of things for Art and my best wishes go out to him.
I: Well I think you’re right and I’ll know he’ll rebound from this one and we look forward to having him back on Thursday.
R: Yeah. Just a couple comments. I want to tell — I tell you I listen to the show every night when I’m plugging away on my computer. And I’ve learned so much and discussed things with my wife. And I listen to it every night and I just want to say this is an excellent program. But the one thing that troubled me was — personally, I don’t believe you’re a racist. I just got to . . . by saying I’m an Aboriginal person.
I: Oh I see. You mean in regard to the Email I got from a guy about Native American artifacts?
R: Yeah, you know, like it — that bugs me, you know, and I —
I: But people are going to do it.
R: Yeah but the other thing that bugs me too is that why can’t people — scientists like Erich von Daniken and all these others give Indian people some credit and just believe that they had the capacity to do what they did in Central, South America and North America?
I: Well that — there’s an interesting cultural bias to that. I totally accept that. Especially a Northern European bias that I think you could claim for von Daniken who kind of saw the exporters of wisdom always coming from, you know, the — from the — Europe and North Africa and heading toward the Americas. Yeah, I think you — it’s a weird kind of ethnocentrism that I would — I can completely see why that would be offensive.
R: Yeah. I mean the strength of the Central American and Southern American Indian tribes and the technology, sciences and math and alphabets that they, no, built up over who knows how long (“NO”) — I think it’s just a testament to the people on this side of the planet (“NO”) and —
I: Well that having been said too, I also want to reaffirm — I don’t know. I guess it’s what got that Emailer mad at me but it’s something I really believe. I don’t think we should be disturbing grave sites just to get to the answers either. I think some of these answers will remain elusive to us and we’ve got to be good with that because —
R: Yeah, that’s right.
I: I don’t think we can go (“NO”) traipsing through these sacred sites as though they are unimportant just because they weren’t part of our culture. (“IAN”) So I’m with you on that. And just to go back to the thought about tying together both that Email comment that somebody made to me and what is happening to Art, just think about this. There are people that walk around all day long with a golf club up suspended over their shoulders just waiting for somebody to tee off on and they’ll take their first excuse they can find and they don’t really care who it is. And let’s just hope tomorrow it won’t be either of us.
R: Yeah, I hope so. The other thing that I wanted to suggest to you or ask you. I’ve been reading on the Internet about — (small laugh) I don’t know. This is pretty — I don’t know how credible this is. But I’ve been up on this secret Nazi base in Antarctica. I’m wondering if you’ll ever do a show on that. If anybody knows —
I: We’ve touched on it. I don’t believe in it. But there are lots of folks who do, in fact —
R: Foo Fighters and stuff like that.
I: Well, yeah, the Foo Fighter thing is obviously also shared by the other UFO traditions but the Nazi base thing in particular I find one of those unprovable assertions. You know, just almost like lack of evidence becomes evidence enough for some that it exists and I’m duly suspicious of its — that there’s any truth to that at all. But I would entertain a show and I appreciate your suggestion on that. And maybe we’ll do something on that in the future. Maybe somebody has something new on it, in which case I’d be happy to entertain it. Let’s go to the wild card line where Don is in Albany, Oregon. . . .
Q: (speaking into tape recorder immediately following call) Well that was a good call even though I think I would’ve liked to say that I could prove — (“WW”) well what I should — I guess what I should say if I was talking to Ian is ‘On the previous show, your guest was talking about aliens communicating that God is dead so people can do immoral things for self-profit. Tonight, I’m saying that I can prove a Loving God and my own reincarnation.’ What I could’ve said too, for example: ‘When Barbara said something dismissing environmental concerns, there followed many calls on the topic helping to show the urgency of dealing with the many problems of pollution, something that the President and those ‘in power’ are doing their best to avoid. I mean the defense budget keeps going up and, apparently, even in this “A.I.” movie, it’s set in a world where the ice caps have (“MO”) melted so that seems to be the reasonable expectation. Even Steven Spielberg with all his money is dedicating himself to depicting this yet how much of his money goes to helping the environment?’ And concerning all that regarding this crisis about the Filipino Email, I might say, ‘Many of you are quick on the draw and can understand the irony here but for those of you who might not have thought much about the mysteries of karma, let me be blunt. Most people think of Art Bell as a completely straightforward and honest individual (“WHO’S”) dedicated to the truth where in my experience he has covered up the news I have offered him about the Christ Force. In fact, the Christ Force has been crucified by the media in this day and age. Do things really change? So now Art is finding himself in the situation of being victimized by another journalist with a lack of journalistic integrity.’ I might’ve also mentioned if I’d had the chance that I’m always trying to help Ian and Art and Barbara and Whitley and all of their producers and associates understand that corporate thinking is an evil principality and to be on guard against that.
( . . . )
Q: So now it’s Wednesday, the Fourth of July, Independence Day and I guess I should say that I did stay up late on Monday/Tuesday to see what they reran during the repeat hours of the broadcast and no, they didn’t feature the first hour despite that first half hour where Ian was telling about Art’s predicament. So wasn’t that unusual? I did tape the entire show on Monday and the first couple hours of the show on Tuesday/Wednesday . . . When one has knowledge and doesn’t share it, it’s the saddest thing of all because, of course, everyone on the show is in search of greater awareness. So to sit back and just let ignorance go unchallenged is just unthinkable . . . (“IN FACT” “I”) wasn’t going to tape the commercials but every time I turn the tape recorder off I miss something interesting so keep that in mind. (“SAW ME”) I’m going to send this Email to Barbara, Art and Ian. I hope their Email is working . . .
S: Thank you for calling “Coast to Coast AM” Can I get your first name please?
Q: It’s Mark.
S: Where are you calling from, Mark?
Q: L.A.
S: Alright. Hold on the line and we’ll get you up as soon as we can.
Q: Great.
I: . . . to think about the future — the future of mankind and machines. It’s a book about the astounding potential of cybernetics and, perhaps, it is a wake-up call to all humankind. The book is called Beyond Humanity: CyberEvolution and Future Minds. And to paraphrase Mr. Cox, this show will not be science fiction. It will be science speculation. Not sci-fi but sci-spec. What we’re going to ask you to do on this show may be difficult because we’re going to ask you to discount what sci-fi has taught you about robots and cyberintelligence. Indeed, the sci-spec ship on which we are sailing is headed far beyond the horizons of most science fiction. And it will amaze you. It will perhaps rightfully terrify you. We’ll get started next hour with Oral D. Cox. We’ll do open lines this hour. And I will not be doing much in the way of crypto-news. However, I do have an important story to read, one which explains why Art is not on tonight but why he will be back on Thursday. And why I’m sitting in for the rest of this show on “Coast to Coast AM.” You don’t want to miss this announcement next. My name’s Ian Punnett. (commercial segue)
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I: I have a few stories that might fit nicely into a crypto newscast. I’ll save them for tomorrow night when I’ll also be filling in for Art Bell. My name is Ian Punnett. And Art’s off tonight for a reason. Those of you with the Internet know probably some of this already. Those of you who don’t — I would like to explain a bit. This is how it all started. Again. A columnist of “Showbiz Tidbits,” a woman who I believe is named Leah Salterio, a woman for the — a writer for Philippine Daily Inquirer decided to take a chance. She decided to break the old journalistic rule of multiple sources for a story and wrote her entire Sunday showbiz column about an Email she received from another journalist who was spreading rumors. You know, there’s another journalistic rule that says one journalist should never trust the other journalist for a story but I think we could spend a whole show on what this woman did wrong. The important thing here to mention is the effect that it’s had on all of us. The story was headlined “U.S. Talk Radio Host Insults Filipinos On Internet.” Some of you may already know where this is going. I read the words of Leah Salterio: “We received Email from our Singapore-based friend Jennifer Alejandro, a former ABS/CBN news anchor and field reporter who now works with Channel News Asia. Jenny apparently only forwarded the Email to us with the note, ‘Please pass this on to every Filipino you know.’ The article is written” — they call it an article — “by a certain Art Bell, a talk radio host who broadcasts his show from his home in Nevada. The program is aired over 400 stations across the United States. In the article ‘Filipinos Make Me Puke'” — they’re calling it an article — “Bell lambastes Filipinos, our culture and way of life. The piece is so degrading that it’s important that after reading it no one attacks him but responds to him in a civilized manner because otherwise his thoughts will be reaffirmed. We are printing excerpts from Bell’s article. ‘The Philippines is a third world country. Nothing respectable has ever been created by Filipino people during our entire human history. Nothing good has ever come from Phillippines and I don’t believe anything good ever will. In Japan, Filipinos are heavily discriminated against. The only Filipinos that can live successfully in Japan are the Filipino prostitutes. Nothing in Filipino culture can be seen as Asian. They have no architectural, artistic or cultural influence which is in any way Asian, thinking of the great countries in Asia such as Japan, Korea and China. To all Filipino people, please recognize your roots. You come from the Third World. Your country is disgusting and filthy place. Most people there live in poverty. Your culture has much more Spanish influence than Chinese and absolutely no Japanese influence whatsoever. People in Japan and China do not act like you. There is no way you can connect yourself to Asia other than location. Your culture and technological advancement does not even come close to what Chinese people have done in the past and what Japanese and Korean people are doing right now. Everything you do is distinctly Filipino. You cannot take credit for Japanese cars, video games and'” — I’ve been trying to read this word all day — “‘Hentai.'” I have no idea what it is. “‘You have no concept of culture, no concept of Asian ideas or philosophy. Can you demonstrate how you use Confucianism or Taoism in your everyday life? You can’t and you never will be able to. I understand that you are trying to create an identity for yourselves as young people but it is not related to Asia. Your identity is Filipino. That’s all you are. Just Filipino. Think about what that means.'” And at the bottom of the so-called article—as the columnist was so kind to print—were some Email addresses for Art Bell. You know, even just reading this out loud, it just seems ludicrous that somebody, even a third party reading it for the first time, would think this is written by an American. It’s so clearly written by somebody from Japan trashing Filipinos — I mean certainly that’s what it sounds like. Anyway, as you might have read on the Drudge Report, the international reaction to the printing of this story was immediate and dangerous: “Talk Radio Sensation Art Bell Victim of Global Smear Campaign.” That’s what Drudge printed. I’ll read you a little bit of his copy. “Overnight talk radio sensation Art Bell has been falsely labeled a Filipino-basher after a phony Email message signed Art Bell makes its way around the digital world and finally into print, reproduced in the leading Philippine newspaper. The phony Bell message has been posted repeatedly on newsgroups. It has been referenced in chatrooms. One posting has been traced to the library computer lab, the University of California at San Diego.” Quote “‘This vicious writing is so obviously a fraud to anybody who listens to Bell’s program and to those of us who know Bell personally,’ said a close source to the radio host. What is so surprising and alarming is how it has spread. Now a newspaper halfway around the world has gone and published it.” Indeed, the Email response was predictably ugly or violent or both. “Art Bell, honestly I know that I’m just wasting my time writing this to you because you’re most definitely not worth my time at all. Because you are an insult to the human race. I just hope and pray to God that you die very soon because you are the biggest insult not only to us Filipinos, who are the real chosen people of God, but to the human race, you idiot. And, by the way, say my hello to Satan when you get to see that brother of yours soon enough. May God still have mercy on you for what you did.” Another Emailer to Art: “How dare you treat us like that. Why don’t you look at yourself in the mirror before you insult us. You guys are racist. I curse you. I wish you will grow so old that you’ll live a very painful life.” And it gets worse. A woman named Annie writes Art Bell to say: “Just hope that you realize what you have just done and what I’ve heard all the people in the Philippines are mad and planning to take an action against you.” More specifically, he got an anonymous Email saying, “Never attempt to visit the Philippines because we will cut all your heads.” And there’s more on that: “Mr. Bell, it seems you’re out in your mind when you lambasted Filipinos. Go to the Philippines and I will tell” — and I’m going to leave this person unnamed — “I will tell” — an individual who shall remain nameless — “to kidnap you and remove your head from your body. Who are you to speak to Filipinos that way?” In fact, that person who was named in the previous Email appears to have written — wrote back and said this: “Greetings by the name of Allah. I’m just a hired computer typist of a” — and this is the name of a terrorist group. “Please, I don’t mean to write this, okay, as long as some of my words are not readable by this terrorist group. Maybe later they cut off my head like my friend Ronald.” He goes on to say: “The terrorists have just been sent a letter from someone in there in the U.S. They say they will give anything to them just for the head of Art Bell. Even this mail is not so hard to track in by your security. I just been thinking that you must leave your home and warn those relatives of yours there because there’s someone hired in this group to kill you. Please you must leave there because.” As you can understand, on the artbell.com website, Art was compelled to deny this again as he has done for years. “Open Letter To My Listeners.” Those of you that don’t have computer access, I’ll read this in part for you. “July 1st, 2001. Another event in the seemingly never ending strange series of events in my life occurred which will prevent me from being on the air this week. A horrible racist article, which has been on the Internet for three years despite all our best efforts, has just been published by the Philippine Daily Inquirer, the largest circulation newspaper in that country. This has resulted in hundreds of Emails and death threats to me and my family. Even the slightest effort on their part would have resulted in the truth before rushing to publish. The article appeared in the entertainment section of the Sunday edition. As many of you I hope are aware, I did not write this trash and never would. In fact, my wife is half Filipino. It was originally sent from a computer located at UCSD in Southern California. They have sent an apology which has been posted on this website for almost three years. Over that period of time, every enquiry has been answered by myself, my webmaster and the network. We are presently taking all legal steps possible. However, in the meantime there is a very real physical danger to my family and myself. This will require my full attention for the moment.” Following are excerpts from that legal response to the publishers and the various editors for the Philippine Daily Inquirer. “Dear Interested Parties, Our law firm represents Art Bell, who has been grossly defamed by your publications. We demand that you immediately correct the libelous and false like statements published on or about June 30th in the Philippine Daily Inquirer and on the Internet and other publications affiliated with your company. These statements are extremely provocative and likely to incite violence against their author. The charge that Mr. Bell wrote the Email is a statement of fact. The statement is false. Even a cursory glance at Mr. Bell’s website or an inquiry sent to Mr. Bell or his representatives would have established the Email was a fraudulent Internet posting not written by Art Bell. The fact that Mr. Bell had nothing to do with the Email could have been established with the most minimal application of journalistic due diligence yet your publication disregarded all standards of journalistic integrity and simply published the fake Email for the entire world to see. This evidences a most reckless disregard for the truth. Demand is hereby made that the articles publishing the Email attributed to Mr. Bell be retracted in the most conspicuous way possible and in numerous issues of your publications. Sincerely, Gerard P. Fox” of Fox and Spillane in Los Angeles. As a result, this retraction will appear roughly tomorrow morning or about this time in the Philippines several days after the original article in a, you know, Tuesday/mid-week publication not nearly the circulation of a Sunday paper but here’s what they have written. “Radio Talk Show Host Art Bell Not Behind Insulting Email.” The same columnist, Leah Salterio, wrote this. “Nevada-based radio talk show host Art Bell is in no way connected to a malicious and vile Email that insults Filipinos and that has been attributed to him.” She should add by me but anyway — little editorial. Quote: “‘The charge that Mr. Bell wrote this Email is a statement of fact,’ Bell’s legal counsel said in a letter faxed to the Inquirer from Los Angeles. ‘This statement is false. Even a cursory glance at Mr. Bell’s website or an inquiry sent to Mr. Bell or his representatives would have established the Email was a fraudulent Internet posting not written by Art Bell.'” And she goes on to say, “We did not check out Bell’s website when we received the Email forwarded by Alejandro. When we finally did look at it, it turned out Bell had printed this denial more than two years ago. The Inquirer apologizes for its failure to investigate the source of the Email. It regrets the error. Meanwhile, Channel News Asia newscaster Jennifer Alejandro, who is based in Singapore, forwarded the Email to the Inquirer. It was the subject of this column last Sunday. The Email contained offensive statements.” And she goes on to reaffirm that this is, in fact, not from Art Bell and with a minimal amount of apology posted this retraction. Well it’s anyone’s guess whether in newspaper parlance this retraction will put this story to bed. What can be known and what should not be forgotten is that Art Bell is one of the kindest men in broadcasting. I just spoke with him again earlier this afternoon. And whenever I speak with him the word gentle always comes to mind. Perhaps, it’s just because of his disposition and his reputation that Art has once more been victimized through a vicious, libelous campaign that took on a life of its own. But it is the hope of all of us associated with “Coast to Coast” that Art and Ramona enjoy the rest of their time off, their Fourth of July holiday and that Art Bell will return to the air as expected this Thursday, refreshed, relieved and with this egregious lapse of journalistic ethics behind him. And I thank him for the opportunity to help set the record straight. We’ve got a full half hour of open lines to get to and you can feel free to comment on what you have heard or take us into entirely new directions — what open lines are all about. But you do not want to miss next hour as we go well beyond the imaginations of science fiction writers to talk about the real probabilities of artificial intelligence with a guy who knows A.I., Earl D. Cox, next hour on “Coast to Coast AM” In for Art Bell, my name’s Ian Punnett.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: BUMPER MUSIC HERE IS “READY FOR THE TIMES TO GET BETTER” PERFORMED BY CRYSTAL GAYLE. A COMMERCIAL FOR THE SHOW’S TIE-IN NEWSLETTER IS THEN FOLLOWED BY MULTIPLE PROGRAM PROMOS. BUMPER MUSIC FOR THE SECOND HALF HOUR IS “DON’T BRING ME DOWN” PERFORMED BY ELO.)
I: “I’ll tell you once more before I get off the floor” — that’s the best song ever written about somebody’s business manager. It’s a long rock and roll story. Let’s go right to open lines. And thank you all for holding on as long as you have. It’ll be a great show next hour with the look into the future of artificial intelligence hot on the heels of the big new summer blockbuster movie from Steven Spielberg. But first let’s go west of the Rockies where Mark (BEEP) is in L.A. on “Coast to Coast AM” to get us started. Mark?
Q: Hi, Ian.
I: Hi.
Q: So now that you’ve been hosting a so-called paranormal show for a while, I’ve come up with a good question for you.
I: Was that pure normal or paranormal?
Q: I think it’s pure normal. (“BUT”) If it’s not explained correctly, it can seem paranormal.
I: Okay. I was just curious. Go away — go ahead.
Q: But, anyway — but first I guess I should follow up my previous calls about EVP and Angelic guidance and all that and see if you have any comment you’d like to make about the testament.org website.
I: I haven’t been to that website so that’s a sneaky way of slipping that in there but, anyway, what was your question?
Q: Okay, well — no, it’s not really sneaky because (“A”) it was a year and a half ago when I called Rollye James and complained about Art, Whitley and Hilly covering me up.
I: Well, okay, but you see here you go again. It jus — no —
Q: Well, no — and all the Email and everything. But my question is tonight — when you consider the succession of callers and certain synchronicities, how aware are you of the guidance of a Superconscious Mind occasionally communicating to you through the subconscious of the callers in terms of the sequence of calls, the technology in terms of what calls come in through the phone lines, etc. I mean I’ve shown my own experiences at the testament.org website.
I: There you go again. Would you stop — this is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then?
Q: Well someone’s got to plug it. I want to show that not everyone who’s had paranormal experiences has been a guest on your show.
I: . . . It actually is an intriguing quita (or “QUITA”) — question but I’m going to deny you an answer because (line disconnected)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: DURING MY RESPONSE, I DIDN’T HEAR IAN’S VOICE IN THE BACKGROUND UNTIL AFTER SAYING THE WORD “EVERYONE.” I SIMULTANEOUSLY WAS RECORDING THE BROADCAST ON MY RADIO CASSETTE RECORDER AND LATER I WAS SURPRISED TO DISCOVER THAT WHAT I HAD TAPED FROM THE TELEPHONE RECEIVER WAS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WAS HEARD ON THE BROADCAST. THE FOLLOWING IS A TRANSCRIPT OF THE BROADCAST SHOWING WHERE PUNNETT TWICE HIT SOME KIND OF EDIT BUTTON. I HAVE MARKED THESE PLACES [1] AND [2] FOR EASY REFERENCE.)
Q: Hi, Ian.
I: Hi.
Q: So now that you’ve been hosting a so-called paranormal show for a while, I’ve come up with a good question for you.
I: Was that pure normal or paranormal?
Q: I think it’s pure normal. (“BUT”) If it’s not explained correctly, it can seem paranormal.
I: Okay. I was just curious. Go away — go ahead.
Q: But, anyway — but first I guess I should follow up my previous calls about EVP and Angelic guidance and all that and see if you have any comment you’d like to make about the testament.org website.
I: I haven’t been to that website so that’s a sneaky way of [1] — anyway, what was your question?
Q: Okay, well — no, it’s not really sneaky because (“A”) it was a year and a half ago when I called Rollye James and complained about Art, Whitley and Hilly covering me up.
I: Well, okay, but you see here you go again. It jus — no —
Q: Well, no — and all the Email and everything. But my question is tonight — when you consider the succession of callers and certain synchronicities, how aware are you of the guidance of a Superconscious Mind occasionally communicating to you through the subconscious of the callers in terms of the sequence of calls, the technology in terms of what calls come in through the phone lines, etc. I mean I’ve shown my own experiences at the testament.org web [2] —
I: Would you stop — this is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then? Let’s just bag it right now. If you want to have a conversation, I’m great with that. And it actually is an intriguing quita (or “QUITA”) — question but I’m going to deny you an answer because you turned this into an infomercial. So cut it out and grow up. Grow a spine and call back some year. Let’s go to the first-time caller line where Robert is in Canada on “Coast to Coast AM.” Robert?
R: Good morning. How are you?
I: Good. It’s open lines. Where are you going to take us? Hopefully, not to plug your business.
R: Well I don’t think — (small laugh)
I: Please don’t mention, you know, Bob’s meat company or something like it, okay?
R: (laughs) I just wanted to send my condolences, firstly, to Art and his wife. I think that scurrilous and underhanded behavior for the last three years has destroyed a lot of things for Art and my best wishes go out to him.
I: Well I think you’re right and I’ll know he’ll rebound from this one and we look forward to having him back on Thursday.
R: Yeah. Just a couple comments. I want to tell — I tell you I listen to the show every night when I’m plugging away on my computer. And I’ve learned so much and discussed things with my wife. And I listen to it every night and I just want to say this is an excellent program. But the one thing that troubled me was — personally, I don’t believe you’re a racist. I just got to . . . by saying I’m an Aboriginal person.
I: Oh I see. You mean in regard to the Email I got from a guy about Native American artifacts?
R: Yeah, you know, like it — that bugs me, you know, and I —
I: But people are going to do it.
R: Yeah but the other thing that bugs me too is that why can’t people — scientists like Erich von Daniken and all these others give Indian people some credit and just believe that they had the capacity to do what they did in Central, South America and North America?
I: Well that — there’s an interesting cultural bias to that. I totally accept that. Especially a Northern European bias that I think you could claim for von Daniken who kind of saw the exporters of wisdom always coming from, you know, the — from the — Europe and North Africa and heading toward the Americas. Yeah, I think you — it’s a weird kind of ethnocentrism that I would — I can completely see why that would be offensive.
R: Yeah. I mean the strength of the Central American and Southern American Indian tribes and the technology, sciences and math and alphabets that they, no, built up over who knows how long (“NO”) — I think it’s just a testament to the people on this side of the planet (“NO”) and —
I: Well that having been said too, I also want to reaffirm — I don’t know. I guess it’s what got that Emailer mad at me but it’s something I really believe. I don’t think we should be disturbing grave sites just to get to the answers either. I think some of these answers will remain elusive to us and we’ve got to be good with that because —
R: Yeah, that’s right.
I: I don’t think we can go (“NO”) traipsing through these sacred sites as though they are unimportant just because they weren’t part of our culture. (“IAN”) So I’m with you on that. And just to go back to the thought about tying together both that Email comment that somebody made to me and what is happening to Art, just think about this. There are people that walk around all day long with a golf club up suspended over their shoulders just waiting for somebody to tee off on and they’ll take their first excuse they can find and they don’t really care who it is. And let’s just hope tomorrow it won’t be either of us.
R: Yeah, I hope so. The other thing that I wanted to suggest to you or ask you. I’ve been reading on the Internet about — (small laugh) I don’t know. This is pretty — I don’t know how credible this is. But I’ve been up on this secret Nazi base in Antarctica. I’m wondering if you’ll ever do a show on that. If anybody knows —
I: We’ve touched on it. I don’t believe in it. But there are lots of folks who do, in fact —
R: Foo Fighters and stuff like that.
I: Well, yeah, the Foo Fighter thing is obviously also shared by the other UFO traditions but the Nazi base thing in particular I find one of those unprovable assertions. You know, just almost like lack of evidence becomes evidence enough for some that it exists and I’m duly suspicious of its — that there’s any truth to that at all. But I would entertain a show and I appreciate your suggestion on that. And maybe we’ll do something on that in the future. Maybe somebody has something new on it, in which case I’d be happy to entertain it. Let’s go to the wild card line where Don is in Albany, Oregon. . . .
Q: (speaking into tape recorder immediately following call) Well that was a good call even though I think I would’ve liked to say that I could prove — (“WW”) well what I should — I guess what I should say if I was talking to Ian is ‘On the previous show, your guest was talking about aliens communicating that God is dead so people can do immoral things for self-profit. Tonight, I’m saying that I can prove a Loving God and my own reincarnation.’ What I could’ve said too, for example: ‘When Barbara said something dismissing environmental concerns, there followed many calls on the topic helping to show the urgency of dealing with the many problems of pollution, something that the President and those ‘in power’ are doing their best to avoid. I mean the defense budget keeps going up and, apparently, even in this “A.I.” movie, it’s set in a world where the ice caps have (“MO”) melted so that seems to be the reasonable expectation. Even Steven Spielberg with all his money is dedicating himself to depicting this yet how much of his money goes to helping the environment?’ And concerning all that regarding this crisis about the Filipino Email, I might say, ‘Many of you are quick on the draw and can understand the irony here but for those of you who might not have thought much about the mysteries of karma, let me be blunt. Most people think of Art Bell as a completely straightforward and honest individual (“WHO’S”) dedicated to the truth where in my experience he has covered up the news I have offered him about the Christ Force. In fact, the Christ Force has been crucified by the media in this day and age. Do things really change? So now Art is finding himself in the situation of being victimized by another journalist with a lack of journalistic integrity.’ I might’ve also mentioned if I’d had the chance that I’m always trying to help Ian and Art and Barbara and Whitley and all of their producers and associates understand that corporate thinking is an evil principality and to be on guard against that.
( . . . )
Q: So now it’s Wednesday, the Fourth of July, Independence Day and I guess I should say that I did stay up late on Monday/Tuesday to see what they reran during the repeat hours of the broadcast and no, they didn’t feature the first hour despite that first half hour where Ian was telling about Art’s predicament. So wasn’t that unusual? I did tape the entire show on Monday and the first couple hours of the show on Tuesday/Wednesday . . . When one has knowledge and doesn’t share it, it’s the saddest thing of all because, of course, everyone on the show is in search of greater awareness. So to sit back and just let ignorance go unchallenged is just unthinkable . . . (“IN FACT” “I”) wasn’t going to tape the commercials but every time I turn the tape recorder off I miss something interesting so keep that in mind. (“SAW ME”) I’m going to send this Email to Barbara, Art and Ian. I hope their Email is working . . .
Subject: Monday Night CallDate: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:20:54 -0700From: Mark Russell Bell <markrussellbell@earthlink.net>Organization: https://testament.orgTo: bsimpsonksfo@yahoo.com, artbell@aol.com, punnett@mindspring.com
Dear Barbara, Art and Ian,
In consideration of the response to my call on the Monday night show, Ihope you’ll consider the following as originally contributed by myselfto the “Coast To Coast A.M.” message boards on January 28, 2001.“Honesty should always be an objective for participants and listeners of‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ Sometimes the social order can make one a victimeven of prosperity if not of one’s greed or that of others. We shouldnever lose sight of the fact that what our actions and feelingsdemonstrate makes more sense than any words assigned to them; and thatthere are always opportunities for receiving and sharing God’s Lovethrough each other’s help and kindness. Our responsibilities can be freeof anxiety through striving to be truthful while remembering that thereare no true borders or distinctions between people.
“An article in the Fall 1998 RAND REVIEW mentioned the informationrevolution transforming the nature of conflict and predicted ‘thebeginning of an age in which information and knowledge are the keyelements of power.’ This is a false premise as there is no power orresponsibility that doesn’t serve truth and goodness. The source ofpopularity for ‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ is people’s desire to learn truth.Providing an unrestricted forum for comparing cases of the unexplainedallows an opportunity to gain a better understanding of the forces, Loveand forgiveness governing our lives. Giving in to fear is a danger yetthe awareness of Love frees us from limitations. Let us hope that Artand his co-hosts are aware of their own ‘power’ with the support andfaith that has been shown encouraging them to embrace new challenges andopportunities with inspiration.”
What I was attempting to communicate in this post was that you have theexperience and abilities necessary to explain complicated circumstances(not only to listeners yet also to associates and corporate executives)as long as there is the awareness of the importance in meeting achallenge not from a perspective of fear yet, instead, from arealization of Love. Yes, I do think—and it has been my hope—that youwould be able to communicate my own circumstances as my case providesproof of God’s Love with documentary-style evidence that we each have aFriend in the Subconscious of each person we encounter. I might addthat I’ve also found life much less stressful in being honest about pastmisunderstandings, mistakes and shortcomings; just as it is alsoimportant to embrace forgiveness of one’s self and others. I imaginethat you would agree with me that we are always evolving into adifferent, more aware individual. I guess the Elmer Gantry metaphor canbe of value to mention in this respect along with the fact that nomistake is as damaging as any resultant cover-up attempt. In otherwords, we have no power over how others respond to ourselves; however,being honest makes it possible to resolve a difficult situation.Life is so much more satisfying since I was given the knowledge andopportunity to give back to Spirit in return for the countless giftsreceived every day. Despite this awareness, I must remind myself thatmy own circumstances are trivial in comparison to the predicament ofSpirit that I would like others to consider, whether an individualrefers to Such as Creator, God, Christ, Consciousness, Living EnergyUniverse, Force, Mother Nature, etc.
I would also like to make it clear that I’ve always felt comfortabletalking to each of you (and also Ramona) and hope you feel the same waywhen it comes to speaking to me. If you have any questions, let meknow.
Mark Russell Bell
Dear Barbara, Art and Ian,
In consideration of the response to my call on the Monday night show, Ihope you’ll consider the following as originally contributed by myselfto the “Coast To Coast A.M.” message boards on January 28, 2001.“Honesty should always be an objective for participants and listeners of‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ Sometimes the social order can make one a victimeven of prosperity if not of one’s greed or that of others. We shouldnever lose sight of the fact that what our actions and feelingsdemonstrate makes more sense than any words assigned to them; and thatthere are always opportunities for receiving and sharing God’s Lovethrough each other’s help and kindness. Our responsibilities can be freeof anxiety through striving to be truthful while remembering that thereare no true borders or distinctions between people.
“An article in the Fall 1998 RAND REVIEW mentioned the informationrevolution transforming the nature of conflict and predicted ‘thebeginning of an age in which information and knowledge are the keyelements of power.’ This is a false premise as there is no power orresponsibility that doesn’t serve truth and goodness. The source ofpopularity for ‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ is people’s desire to learn truth.Providing an unrestricted forum for comparing cases of the unexplainedallows an opportunity to gain a better understanding of the forces, Loveand forgiveness governing our lives. Giving in to fear is a danger yetthe awareness of Love frees us from limitations. Let us hope that Artand his co-hosts are aware of their own ‘power’ with the support andfaith that has been shown encouraging them to embrace new challenges andopportunities with inspiration.”
What I was attempting to communicate in this post was that you have theexperience and abilities necessary to explain complicated circumstances(not only to listeners yet also to associates and corporate executives)as long as there is the awareness of the importance in meeting achallenge not from a perspective of fear yet, instead, from arealization of Love. Yes, I do think—and it has been my hope—that youwould be able to communicate my own circumstances as my case providesproof of God’s Love with documentary-style evidence that we each have aFriend in the Subconscious of each person we encounter. I might addthat I’ve also found life much less stressful in being honest about pastmisunderstandings, mistakes and shortcomings; just as it is alsoimportant to embrace forgiveness of one’s self and others. I imaginethat you would agree with me that we are always evolving into adifferent, more aware individual. I guess the Elmer Gantry metaphor canbe of value to mention in this respect along with the fact that nomistake is as damaging as any resultant cover-up attempt. In otherwords, we have no power over how others respond to ourselves; however,being honest makes it possible to resolve a difficult situation.Life is so much more satisfying since I was given the knowledge andopportunity to give back to Spirit in return for the countless giftsreceived every day. Despite this awareness, I must remind myself thatmy own circumstances are trivial in comparison to the predicament ofSpirit that I would like others to consider, whether an individualrefers to Such as Creator, God, Christ, Consciousness, Living EnergyUniverse, Force, Mother Nature, etc.
I would also like to make it clear that I’ve always felt comfortabletalking to each of you (and also Ramona) and hope you feel the same waywhen it comes to speaking to me. If you have any questions, let meknow.
Mark Russell Bell
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So, of course, Ian didn’t get his Email because it says there’s a quota violation where he’s concerned so I guess he’s over the limit.
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Q: Listening to my tapes of the show (“MADE”) makes me realize—with all the spirit messages—how helpful the awareness of the EVP would be to many guests who have been on the show. I mean their most profound observations and questions often can be disproven or proven. I hope we don’t live in such a sad, fallen world that there are people who eventually, once they become aware of EVP, that they start inserting their own, manufactured EVP into interviews. I mean that’s the logical next step (“FOR”) certain disinformation or information control agency work. I don’t think I would be fooled. I would hope not. Would God allow such a thing? Well, obviously, the answer is yes. The best weapon against such evil is wisdom. And for some reason (“THE CO”) the hosts of “Coast to Coast AM” aren’t really in the position yet to give help to their fellow man.
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Q: So it’s Thursday night and Barbara Simpson’s hosting. Art’s not going to be back until Monday, after all. And she’s interviewing Stanton Friedman and Gary Lockwood. And Gary Lockwood asked her if he could plug his website garylockwood2001.com and she said, “Sure, go ahead.”
( . . . )
Q: Both Gary and (“SSS”) Stanton are signing autographs — Gary, of his stills from his movies, and Stanton, of his books.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I CALLED “COAST TO COAST AM” ON SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2001 AT 10:07 P.M.)
S: “Coast to Coast AM.” Can you hold please?
Q: Sure.
B: . . . Coast AM.” We’re coming to you from our “Coast” studios in San Francisco and we’re reaching you wherever you are off the real world. Welcome to this moment in time — well a few hours in time when we can search for greater meaning in quarters not usually probed, look into the darkness for the light, and dig for answers to the profoundly perplexing questions facing all of us — an exploration of the world of the strange, the unexplained (“AND”), sometimes — sometimes the purely bizarre. It’s another adventure on a Saturday/Sunday morning. So glad you’re with us.
S: “Coast to Coast AM.” I need your first name.
Q: My name is Mark.
S: Mark, where are you calling from?
Q: Los Angeles.
S: Hold on.
B: . . . adage ‘You are what you eat.’ Grandma used to say that. Well if that’s true, what are we? What’s in our food? Vitamins and minerals that keep us healthy or other things like man-made chemicals and petroleum products and hormones and dyes and sugars and fats and perhaps even no vitamins or minerals. If it’s true and that stuff is in our food — (if) that’s true, what does it mean to our health? Clinical nutritionist Carol Simontacchi will be with us and she is very blunt about it. She studied this whole subject. She knows what she’s talking about and she calls much of our food “crazy makers” and the food business “crazy makers” and says that the food industry is destroying our brains and harming our children. How’s that for putting yourself on the line? Well she’s going to be with us to defend that position. We’ll find out what she says. You’re not going to like some of this but you better know about it because you’re putting it in you and you’re putting it in your kid. That’s a little bit later on. As we continue, we have open lines by the way, hope you will call and be part of it. Especially this first hour. The other crazy makers with food — crazy makers with weather all across the planet. I mean just amazing, affecting storms through the Midwest today, severe storms along the eastern Lakes, the Ohio Valley . . . and speaking of pretty far away, at least, is Sean, first-time caller in Cleveland, Ohio. Hello, Sean.
C: How are you? Hello. How’s it going?
B: Good.
C: Hi. I’d just like to say something real quick about the kid with the shark — he got his arm bit off. Did he happen to get his arm back?
B: Yes.
C: Oh he did?
B: They opened up the mouth of the shark, took the arm out of the mouth and took the arm and the kid to the hospital and they — he underwent a twelve-hour operation to get the arm stitched back on.
C: Oh that’s great.
B: Isn’t that amazing?
C: Yes. That’s amazing that he wrestled the shark.
B: Well but he didn’t. His uncle did.
C: Oh, his uncle did?
B: The kid didn’t wrestle the shark. The kid got his arm bitten off and then the uncle went in. This is the part I don’t understand — was that the fish — the shark didn’t even (“NO”) get away. How the uncle could’ve grabbed it and wrestled it on shore is just almost unbelievable.
C: Just amazing.
B: Yeah.
C: Yeah, well I’m calling from Cleveland, Ohio.
B: Yeah, I’ve been there.
C: I’m west of the Cuyahoga River. Been there?
B: I have indeed.
C: It’s a nice town.
B: Well the last time I was there it was nice. I had a lot of good friends from Cleveland.
C: Yeah. Well I was just up all night snorting and I was thinking about some aliens. And (laughs) it’s funny because these aliens — they actually abducted me before. And I was masturbating and I’m sitting there and it’s like I get stuck up there. You know what I mean?
B: Uh-huh. It sounds like you need to find a little more to do with your life, don’t you think, Sean?
C: No, it was great.
B: You loved it, huh?
C: Oh yeah.
B: Yeah?
C: You know what I mean?
B: Well, listen, let us know what happens tonight. Be careful with that stuff you’re using, though. You don’t want to get there and not be able to get back. That can happen too. (clears throat) Let’s go (to) Los Angeles on the wild card (BEEP) line. I don’t know if you can be any more wild than that. Hey Mark, how are you?
Q: I’m very good, Barbara.
B: Good.
Q: Anyway, I wanted to make a follow-up to a call on Monday night. Now don’t jump to conclusions. This is not criticism of (“I”) Ian Punnett.
B: Well don’t — don’t do that.
Q: That’s what — I’m not. It’s not. That’s what I just said.
B: You’ve done that before now, Mark. Don’t do that.
Q: I — it’s not. (“HE” “THEY HE”) It’s just that he made a remark that may have given some (“IM”) listeners an incorrect impression. He had said that, quote: “This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then — you turned this into an infomercial.”
B: Well then you know — look, look, look, look. I heard that and he was right. If you have something you’d like to contribute to the program, let’s do it but let’s —
Q: (off the air) But it’s not a commercial endeavor.
B: — not promote your website, okay?
Q: (off the air) It was not that.
B: That’s — I’m sorry. If you’ve got a problem with the way any other host handles the program, please call them. Don’t call me. I can’t (line disconnected)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE SHOW WAS BROADCAST AGAIN ON AUGUST 18TH WITHOUT THE FIRST HOUR. ON AUGUST 19, I RECORDED MY CALL FROM THE ARCHIVE EDITION OF THE JULY 7 SHOW AND THIS IS HOW IT SOUNDED.)
B: . . . Hey Mark, how are you?
Q: I’m very good, Barbara.
B: Good.
Q: Anyway, I wanted to make a follow-up to a call on Monday night. Now don’t jump to conclusions. This is not criticism of (“I”) Ian Punnett.
B: Well don’t — don’t do that. You’ve done that before now, Mark. Don’t do that.
Q: (n)ot. (“HE” “THEY HE”) It’s just that he made a remark that may have given some (“IM”) listeners an incorrect impression. He had said that, quote: “This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then”
B: like to contribute to the program, let’s do it but let’s not promote your website, okay?
That’s — I’m sorry. If you’ve got a problem with the way any other host handles the program, please call them. Don’t call me. I can’t answer for other people. I have enough trouble answering for myself. Call everybody who gives you a problem but also don’t call up and promote your website. Matt is in Flint, Michigan. That’s another city I’ve been in. Hello there, Matt. How are you? On the east of the Rockies line. . . .
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: AFTER MY LINE WAS DISCONNECTED, I IMMEDIATELY CALLED BACK ON THE WILD CARD LINE AT 10:22.)
S: “Coast to Coast AM.”
Q: Hello, are you a producer of the show?
S: Yes, I am.
Q: I was libeled by Ian Punnett on Monday night when he said that my — when I gave my website address that it was an infomercial. This was a false impression given, that my website was a commercial endeavor, and this is not the case.
S: Alright then sir I will give you this. I’m not going to let you call back on any other show but Ian’s tomorrow night. I will not let you go on the air with anybody else. If you want to go toe to toe with Ian, I will let you do that.
Q: Well how can I go toe to toe —
S: All —
Q: — when he hangs up on me after saying that —
S: I —
Q: — he said that my website was a commer — he said it — (“WE’RE”)
S: I’m going to hand up on you if you don’t stop talking. (“WHAT’S”)
Q: What’s your name?
S: You don’t need to know my name, sir. I am telling you it is the policy of the show bot to give out anybody’s website address. Except for the guests.
Q: Just a moment. Gary — I’ve been on this show more than Gary Lockwood and he gave his Web address out. (line disconnected so I began dialing again) Coward.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I AGAIN CALLED ON THE WILD CARD LINE AT 10:26.)
S: “Coast to Coast AM.” Can I have your first name?
Q: Yes. What’s your name?
S: None of your business what my name is.
Q: You don’t know what you’re doing.
S: You know what? If you want to be a jerk, that’s fine. I’m not going to let you get on.
Q: God is trying to give mankind a message through me and you’re preventing God —
S: You know what? Hey, I’m telling . . .
Q: — from doing this. (line disconnected)
( . . . )
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So now it’s Sunday evening. It’s about 9:30. I’ve decided to call after ten.
( . . . )
S: Thank you for calling “Coast to Coast AM.” Can you please hold?
Q: Sure.
S: Thanks.
I: . . . visitations from the other side. The phone response that night, if you were listening, was tremendous. The Email response was no different, absolutely through the roof. And so we’re going to go back to the other side tonight from a slightly different perspective and share the thoughts of Lee Lawson, the author of "A Visitation, a spontaneous encounter with a loved one" that you need to hear about and you will coming up next hour on “Coast to Coast AM.” In the meantime, I have some very interesting crypto news, including an update on some actual news which (or “WHICH”/”WITCH”) many of you may have missed but as, being sort of a recurring subject on this show over the last few weeks anyway. We’ll get to all of that plus your calls right out of the box on the way. For open lines for the rest of this hour on “Coast to Coast AM.” My name’s Ian Punnett.
R: From coast to coast and worldwide on the Internet, this is “Coast — ” (commercials follow)
S: Thank you so much for holding. Who’s this?
Q: Mark?!
S: Mark. (“UM-HUH”)
Q: In L.A.
S: Mark in L.A. Alright, Mark, just turn off the radio. Listen to the show through the phone. When Ian calls for you, you’ll be on the air.
Q: Okay, great.
S: Thanks.
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I: Alright, we’ve got another hour of open lines. We’re going to get to them right away but I have a couple of stories I wanted to pass along to you for crypto news.
S: Sorry, Mark. We’re not going to get to your call tonight.
Q: Hello? (line disconnected)
( . . . )
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) Let’s see what the first open lines caller had to say.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE FOLLOWING WAS RECORDED VIA THE INTERNET ARCHIVE EDITION OF THE PROGRAM ON AUGUST 20TH SO SOME WORDS MAY HAVE BEEN SKIPPED WITHOUT MY NOTICING IT DUE TO TRANSMISSION GLITCHES. FOR EXAMPLE, A LINE IN ONE OF THE COMMERCIALS WAS GONE FROM MY TAPE OF THE ARCHIVED SHOW AND HAD BEEN REPLACED BY WHAT SOUNDED LIKE “HOPE.”)
I: . . . People love crypto news stuff and they often ask, “Where do you get those stories?” (“WELL”) Some of them I get from the After Dark Newsletter and you’ll be able to read more when you want to whenever you want to there. Let us go to the open lines on “Coast to Coast.” I have, unfortunately, lost my feed so I’ll just ask the guys back at the studio. Kirk, on the west of the Rockies line, for open lines on “Coast to Coast AM.” Kirk?
K: Hey, how are you doing?
I: Good. Where are you going to take us for open lines? You’re going to start it for a great hour.
K: Well I had a couple comments I wanted to say. Or questions. Energy crisis — what if, as hot as it is in Phoenix — there’s got to be a way that we can harness this heat, the sun or something in — (“PUT THO”) you know those little calculators that run on —
I: Yes.
K: — put some of those on the backs of the cars or something.
I: Oh you mean using like solar cells?
K: Yeah.
I: Well there are cars that are already driven by that.
K: Well but I mean it would be — (“IF”) if — the reason why — I mean that would just solve any problem with any money situation (“BUT”) because of the (“IAN”) oil industry that all of those big industries — they wouldn’t allow something like that to happen because you wouldn’t need any of that. If you’re using the sun. And then a back-up source would be the wind because when your car is driving you cause wind (“SO”) when it’s like dark out. I mean the — well could they start charging for the sun (“YEAH”) and the wind?
I: Well — yeah. Come on, what this country would say — yes, somebody would claim ownership. The owner of sun.com or somebody somehow would try to make a play for that. I think that’s a great point. I will — or somebody would start saying that we have to have filtered sunlight everywhere in order to run the cars right and we need to have big (“NO”) giant shields up over the Earth. And there’d be a way (“SO[ME]HOW”) that they can charge to let the sunlight through. I think it’s (or “I THINK IT’S”) a sad but appropriate observation on — if the past is prologue. . . .
( . . . )
Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So now it’s Monday night. Well if Art had open lines in the first hour I probably would’ve called . . . I would’ve gone on to say that, “Everyone is entitled to free speech — not just the select few guests chosen for the show.” And if Art had given (“M[E]”) any kind of argument, I might’ve said, “Is that why you got rid of your message boards at your website?” Or I might’ve said, “A lot of those amazon.com website links for kickbacks signify books with a content commercial enough to meet the approval of publishing corporations” — referring to all those links at the “Coast to Coast AM” website. And Art sounded very upset about the Filipino dilemma and then he said he had hurt his back again. Of course, I know what’s going on. I don’t know why he just doesn’t call me (“YEAH”) to discuss it. I certainly have made myself available enough. He knows I’m a good-hearted person. But who knows his true reality? So Barbara’s on at the moment. I’m listening on the headphones and the calls are pretty awful — (“OF”) open lines. I’m still mad at her for disconnecting me but, of course, no matter what I had said she would’ve disconnected me. She sounds like a b****. I mean she didn’t always sound like a b**** but she sounds like a hard b****. I mean I heard that time when the guest was talking about the woman in the wall at hell saying, “I belong here.” And Barbara said, ‘Let’s move it along.’ (“SO I”) I know exactly what’s going on with her too. Even though I didn’t listen to the show after she hung up on me. I just didn’t want to listen to her voice. I just couldn’t take it anymore I was so mad at her. (“YEAH” “BUT THE”) I think the call before mine said it all too. She has no sense of humor at all. And Ian’s becoming the same way. We know why. I listened to a little bit of his show last night and the last caller of the show during the closing open lines segment was — and this was after, of course, I had been told I couldn’t be on that night — but at the end of the show the last caller’s name was Mark too and there was sort of a pregnant pause there. I guess Ian and Barbara aren’t clever enough — well they must know (“THAT”) one of Art’s problems has to deal with me. (“YEAH” “BECAUSE”) They’re showing all symptoms that Art used to show. (“WHERE”) Especially where Ian’s concerned. He’s caught between his spiritual dilemma of being a divinity student and his material (“DIL”) dilemma of being a corporate radio talkshow host. Anyway, I don’t have anything else to say except I turned on the radio tonight and there was a news host filling in who had open lines. He said he was going to be on for Mr. KABC on Friday so, unless I forget, I’ll probably call in. (“EVEN THOUGH I”) I’ve done this. I’ve been there, done that, and I don’t really know how it’s going to sound starting from scratch again unless the screeners know who I am. You’d think I’d be legend in this business. I still wonder if, perhaps, my call might’ve ended that “Jesus Christ Show” somehow.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: AT THE TIME OF TRANSCRIBING THIS TAPE IN AUGUST 2001, “THE JESUS CHRIST SHOW” CAN BE HEARD ON KFI SUNDAY MORNINGS.)
Q: To realize what you’re really doing with your show as opposed to what you think you’re doing can be very devastating to those perpetrators. (“SSS”)
( . . . )
Q: Barbara’s interviewing Whitley Strieber tonight. It’s not going to (“DO”) get better for them because they’re just killing the messenger. They’re ignoring the message and it’s a loving message. A humorous message. A wonderful message. Unless you love evil and wealth more than — well I’m being — (“I”) you know me. I’m always saying things a little bit overboard but you know what I’m getting at. You have to love the truth. Honesty is the basis of all wisdom. A lot of people could use that information.
( . . . )
Q: Illustrated.
( . . . )
Q: So it’s Tuesday afternoon, July 10th, and I listened to Barbara interviewing Whitley last night. And I tape recorded it. And I heard one, in particular, very clear EVP instance. Listen.
( . . . )
W: (clip) . . . if he had been at 25,000 feet seeing a Skyhook balloon at 60,000 feet, it would not have appeared to have been — to appear to be of tremendous size to him.
B: (clip) I wouldn’t think he would use that word. No.
W: (clip) No.
B: (clip) No question. (“WOULDN’T HELP”) What . . .
( . . . )
Q: Oh and here’s another one (“THAT”) followed a couple minutes after the previous one.
( . . . )
W: (clip) . . . been any number of other cases of military aircraft encounters—but I don’t it’s been documented—that have involved, (as the) listener said, the disappearance of aircraft and aircrew. (“ADD”) And, of course, there was that incident we talked about briefly earlier. The admission of the British CAA . . .
( . . . )
Q: These two EVP instances were heard just prior to the Pacific time two o’clock a.m. hour, the end of the fourth hour of the five-hour show.
( . . . )
Q: By the way, Whitley claims to have 500,000 letters from people who’ve had alien encounters over the years. And from all of these many letters, he selected one to read that didn’t really have much of a point other than aliens coming up the side of the house after a woman, who clearly saw four fingers grasping the window ledge before she went screaming away. And that’s all she could remember. After that, ‘who knows what might have happened?’
( . . . )
Q: So it’s Wednesday night, July 11 . . . Barbara’s hosting again tonight. Isn’t that unusual? It’s always been Ian has had the more significant participation in the past when Art’s been away but suddenly it’s Barbara and I have to wonder if it’s because Ian made such a fool of himself when he responded to my call that started this mess. Anyway, I’m sending her an Email. I write:
( . . . )
Q: Listening to my tapes of the show (“MADE”) makes me realize—with all the spirit messages—how helpful the awareness of the EVP would be to many guests who have been on the show. I mean their most profound observations and questions often can be disproven or proven. I hope we don’t live in such a sad, fallen world that there are people who eventually, once they become aware of EVP, that they start inserting their own, manufactured EVP into interviews. I mean that’s the logical next step (“FOR”) certain disinformation or information control agency work. I don’t think I would be fooled. I would hope not. Would God allow such a thing? Well, obviously, the answer is yes. The best weapon against such evil is wisdom. And for some reason (“THE CO”) the hosts of “Coast to Coast AM” aren’t really in the position yet to give help to their fellow man.
( . . . )
Q: So it’s Thursday night and Barbara Simpson’s hosting. Art’s not going to be back until Monday, after all. And she’s interviewing Stanton Friedman and Gary Lockwood. And Gary Lockwood asked her if he could plug his website garylockwood2001.com and she said, “Sure, go ahead.”
( . . . )
Q: Both Gary and (“SSS”) Stanton are signing autographs — Gary, of his stills from his movies, and Stanton, of his books.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I CALLED “COAST TO COAST AM” ON SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2001 AT 10:07 P.M.)
S: “Coast to Coast AM.” Can you hold please?
Q: Sure.
B: . . . Coast AM.” We’re coming to you from our “Coast” studios in San Francisco and we’re reaching you wherever you are off the real world. Welcome to this moment in time — well a few hours in time when we can search for greater meaning in quarters not usually probed, look into the darkness for the light, and dig for answers to the profoundly perplexing questions facing all of us — an exploration of the world of the strange, the unexplained (“AND”), sometimes — sometimes the purely bizarre. It’s another adventure on a Saturday/Sunday morning. So glad you’re with us.
S: “Coast to Coast AM.” I need your first name.
Q: My name is Mark.
S: Mark, where are you calling from?
Q: Los Angeles.
S: Hold on.
B: . . . adage ‘You are what you eat.’ Grandma used to say that. Well if that’s true, what are we? What’s in our food? Vitamins and minerals that keep us healthy or other things like man-made chemicals and petroleum products and hormones and dyes and sugars and fats and perhaps even no vitamins or minerals. If it’s true and that stuff is in our food — (if) that’s true, what does it mean to our health? Clinical nutritionist Carol Simontacchi will be with us and she is very blunt about it. She studied this whole subject. She knows what she’s talking about and she calls much of our food “crazy makers” and the food business “crazy makers” and says that the food industry is destroying our brains and harming our children. How’s that for putting yourself on the line? Well she’s going to be with us to defend that position. We’ll find out what she says. You’re not going to like some of this but you better know about it because you’re putting it in you and you’re putting it in your kid. That’s a little bit later on. As we continue, we have open lines by the way, hope you will call and be part of it. Especially this first hour. The other crazy makers with food — crazy makers with weather all across the planet. I mean just amazing, affecting storms through the Midwest today, severe storms along the eastern Lakes, the Ohio Valley . . . and speaking of pretty far away, at least, is Sean, first-time caller in Cleveland, Ohio. Hello, Sean.
C: How are you? Hello. How’s it going?
B: Good.
C: Hi. I’d just like to say something real quick about the kid with the shark — he got his arm bit off. Did he happen to get his arm back?
B: Yes.
C: Oh he did?
B: They opened up the mouth of the shark, took the arm out of the mouth and took the arm and the kid to the hospital and they — he underwent a twelve-hour operation to get the arm stitched back on.
C: Oh that’s great.
B: Isn’t that amazing?
C: Yes. That’s amazing that he wrestled the shark.
B: Well but he didn’t. His uncle did.
C: Oh, his uncle did?
B: The kid didn’t wrestle the shark. The kid got his arm bitten off and then the uncle went in. This is the part I don’t understand — was that the fish — the shark didn’t even (“NO”) get away. How the uncle could’ve grabbed it and wrestled it on shore is just almost unbelievable.
C: Just amazing.
B: Yeah.
C: Yeah, well I’m calling from Cleveland, Ohio.
B: Yeah, I’ve been there.
C: I’m west of the Cuyahoga River. Been there?
B: I have indeed.
C: It’s a nice town.
B: Well the last time I was there it was nice. I had a lot of good friends from Cleveland.
C: Yeah. Well I was just up all night snorting and I was thinking about some aliens. And (laughs) it’s funny because these aliens — they actually abducted me before. And I was masturbating and I’m sitting there and it’s like I get stuck up there. You know what I mean?
B: Uh-huh. It sounds like you need to find a little more to do with your life, don’t you think, Sean?
C: No, it was great.
B: You loved it, huh?
C: Oh yeah.
B: Yeah?
C: You know what I mean?
B: Well, listen, let us know what happens tonight. Be careful with that stuff you’re using, though. You don’t want to get there and not be able to get back. That can happen too. (clears throat) Let’s go (to) Los Angeles on the wild card (BEEP) line. I don’t know if you can be any more wild than that. Hey Mark, how are you?
Q: I’m very good, Barbara.
B: Good.
Q: Anyway, I wanted to make a follow-up to a call on Monday night. Now don’t jump to conclusions. This is not criticism of (“I”) Ian Punnett.
B: Well don’t — don’t do that.
Q: That’s what — I’m not. It’s not. That’s what I just said.
B: You’ve done that before now, Mark. Don’t do that.
Q: I — it’s not. (“HE” “THEY HE”) It’s just that he made a remark that may have given some (“IM”) listeners an incorrect impression. He had said that, quote: “This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then — you turned this into an infomercial.”
B: Well then you know — look, look, look, look. I heard that and he was right. If you have something you’d like to contribute to the program, let’s do it but let’s —
Q: (off the air) But it’s not a commercial endeavor.
B: — not promote your website, okay?
Q: (off the air) It was not that.
B: That’s — I’m sorry. If you’ve got a problem with the way any other host handles the program, please call them. Don’t call me. I can’t (line disconnected)
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE SHOW WAS BROADCAST AGAIN ON AUGUST 18TH WITHOUT THE FIRST HOUR. ON AUGUST 19, I RECORDED MY CALL FROM THE ARCHIVE EDITION OF THE JULY 7 SHOW AND THIS IS HOW IT SOUNDED.)
B: . . . Hey Mark, how are you?
Q: I’m very good, Barbara.
B: Good.
Q: Anyway, I wanted to make a follow-up to a call on Monday night. Now don’t jump to conclusions. This is not criticism of (“I”) Ian Punnett.
B: Well don’t — don’t do that. You’ve done that before now, Mark. Don’t do that.
Q: (n)ot. (“HE” “THEY HE”) It’s just that he made a remark that may have given some (“IM”) listeners an incorrect impression. He had said that, quote: “This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website then”
B: like to contribute to the program, let’s do it but let’s not promote your website, okay?
That’s — I’m sorry. If you’ve got a problem with the way any other host handles the program, please call them. Don’t call me. I can’t answer for other people. I have enough trouble answering for myself. Call everybody who gives you a problem but also don’t call up and promote your website. Matt is in Flint, Michigan. That’s another city I’ve been in. Hello there, Matt. How are you? On the east of the Rockies line. . . .
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: AFTER MY LINE WAS DISCONNECTED, I IMMEDIATELY CALLED BACK ON THE WILD CARD LINE AT 10:22.)
S: “Coast to Coast AM.”
Q: Hello, are you a producer of the show?
S: Yes, I am.
Q: I was libeled by Ian Punnett on Monday night when he said that my — when I gave my website address that it was an infomercial. This was a false impression given, that my website was a commercial endeavor, and this is not the case.
S: Alright then sir I will give you this. I’m not going to let you call back on any other show but Ian’s tomorrow night. I will not let you go on the air with anybody else. If you want to go toe to toe with Ian, I will let you do that.
Q: Well how can I go toe to toe —
S: All —
Q: — when he hangs up on me after saying that —
S: I —
Q: — he said that my website was a commer — he said it — (“WE’RE”)
S: I’m going to hand up on you if you don’t stop talking. (“WHAT’S”)
Q: What’s your name?
S: You don’t need to know my name, sir. I am telling you it is the policy of the show bot to give out anybody’s website address. Except for the guests.
Q: Just a moment. Gary — I’ve been on this show more than Gary Lockwood and he gave his Web address out. (line disconnected so I began dialing again) Coward.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: I AGAIN CALLED ON THE WILD CARD LINE AT 10:26.)
S: “Coast to Coast AM.” Can I have your first name?
Q: Yes. What’s your name?
S: None of your business what my name is.
Q: You don’t know what you’re doing.
S: You know what? If you want to be a jerk, that’s fine. I’m not going to let you get on.
Q: God is trying to give mankind a message through me and you’re preventing God —
S: You know what? Hey, I’m telling . . .
Q: — from doing this. (line disconnected)
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Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So now it’s Sunday evening. It’s about 9:30. I’ve decided to call after ten.
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S: Thank you for calling “Coast to Coast AM.” Can you please hold?
Q: Sure.
S: Thanks.
I: . . . visitations from the other side. The phone response that night, if you were listening, was tremendous. The Email response was no different, absolutely through the roof. And so we’re going to go back to the other side tonight from a slightly different perspective and share the thoughts of Lee Lawson, the author of "A Visitation, a spontaneous encounter with a loved one" that you need to hear about and you will coming up next hour on “Coast to Coast AM.” In the meantime, I have some very interesting crypto news, including an update on some actual news which (or “WHICH”/”WITCH”) many of you may have missed but as, being sort of a recurring subject on this show over the last few weeks anyway. We’ll get to all of that plus your calls right out of the box on the way. For open lines for the rest of this hour on “Coast to Coast AM.” My name’s Ian Punnett.
R: From coast to coast and worldwide on the Internet, this is “Coast — ” (commercials follow)
S: Thank you so much for holding. Who’s this?
Q: Mark?!
S: Mark. (“UM-HUH”)
Q: In L.A.
S: Mark in L.A. Alright, Mark, just turn off the radio. Listen to the show through the phone. When Ian calls for you, you’ll be on the air.
Q: Okay, great.
S: Thanks.
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I: Alright, we’ve got another hour of open lines. We’re going to get to them right away but I have a couple of stories I wanted to pass along to you for crypto news.
S: Sorry, Mark. We’re not going to get to your call tonight.
Q: Hello? (line disconnected)
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Q: (speaking into tape recorder) Let’s see what the first open lines caller had to say.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: THE FOLLOWING WAS RECORDED VIA THE INTERNET ARCHIVE EDITION OF THE PROGRAM ON AUGUST 20TH SO SOME WORDS MAY HAVE BEEN SKIPPED WITHOUT MY NOTICING IT DUE TO TRANSMISSION GLITCHES. FOR EXAMPLE, A LINE IN ONE OF THE COMMERCIALS WAS GONE FROM MY TAPE OF THE ARCHIVED SHOW AND HAD BEEN REPLACED BY WHAT SOUNDED LIKE “HOPE.”)
I: . . . People love crypto news stuff and they often ask, “Where do you get those stories?” (“WELL”) Some of them I get from the After Dark Newsletter and you’ll be able to read more when you want to whenever you want to there. Let us go to the open lines on “Coast to Coast.” I have, unfortunately, lost my feed so I’ll just ask the guys back at the studio. Kirk, on the west of the Rockies line, for open lines on “Coast to Coast AM.” Kirk?
K: Hey, how are you doing?
I: Good. Where are you going to take us for open lines? You’re going to start it for a great hour.
K: Well I had a couple comments I wanted to say. Or questions. Energy crisis — what if, as hot as it is in Phoenix — there’s got to be a way that we can harness this heat, the sun or something in — (“PUT THO”) you know those little calculators that run on —
I: Yes.
K: — put some of those on the backs of the cars or something.
I: Oh you mean using like solar cells?
K: Yeah.
I: Well there are cars that are already driven by that.
K: Well but I mean it would be — (“IF”) if — the reason why — I mean that would just solve any problem with any money situation (“BUT”) because of the (“IAN”) oil industry that all of those big industries — they wouldn’t allow something like that to happen because you wouldn’t need any of that. If you’re using the sun. And then a back-up source would be the wind because when your car is driving you cause wind (“SO”) when it’s like dark out. I mean the — well could they start charging for the sun (“YEAH”) and the wind?
I: Well — yeah. Come on, what this country would say — yes, somebody would claim ownership. The owner of sun.com or somebody somehow would try to make a play for that. I think that’s a great point. I will — or somebody would start saying that we have to have filtered sunlight everywhere in order to run the cars right and we need to have big (“NO”) giant shields up over the Earth. And there’d be a way (“SO[ME]HOW”) that they can charge to let the sunlight through. I think it’s (or “I THINK IT’S”) a sad but appropriate observation on — if the past is prologue. . . .
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Q: (speaking into tape recorder) So now it’s Monday night. Well if Art had open lines in the first hour I probably would’ve called . . . I would’ve gone on to say that, “Everyone is entitled to free speech — not just the select few guests chosen for the show.” And if Art had given (“M[E]”) any kind of argument, I might’ve said, “Is that why you got rid of your message boards at your website?” Or I might’ve said, “A lot of those amazon.com website links for kickbacks signify books with a content commercial enough to meet the approval of publishing corporations” — referring to all those links at the “Coast to Coast AM” website. And Art sounded very upset about the Filipino dilemma and then he said he had hurt his back again. Of course, I know what’s going on. I don’t know why he just doesn’t call me (“YEAH”) to discuss it. I certainly have made myself available enough. He knows I’m a good-hearted person. But who knows his true reality? So Barbara’s on at the moment. I’m listening on the headphones and the calls are pretty awful — (“OF”) open lines. I’m still mad at her for disconnecting me but, of course, no matter what I had said she would’ve disconnected me. She sounds like a b****. I mean she didn’t always sound like a b**** but she sounds like a hard b****. I mean I heard that time when the guest was talking about the woman in the wall at hell saying, “I belong here.” And Barbara said, ‘Let’s move it along.’ (“SO I”) I know exactly what’s going on with her too. Even though I didn’t listen to the show after she hung up on me. I just didn’t want to listen to her voice. I just couldn’t take it anymore I was so mad at her. (“YEAH” “BUT THE”) I think the call before mine said it all too. She has no sense of humor at all. And Ian’s becoming the same way. We know why. I listened to a little bit of his show last night and the last caller of the show during the closing open lines segment was — and this was after, of course, I had been told I couldn’t be on that night — but at the end of the show the last caller’s name was Mark too and there was sort of a pregnant pause there. I guess Ian and Barbara aren’t clever enough — well they must know (“THAT”) one of Art’s problems has to deal with me. (“YEAH” “BECAUSE”) They’re showing all symptoms that Art used to show. (“WHERE”) Especially where Ian’s concerned. He’s caught between his spiritual dilemma of being a divinity student and his material (“DIL”) dilemma of being a corporate radio talkshow host. Anyway, I don’t have anything else to say except I turned on the radio tonight and there was a news host filling in who had open lines. He said he was going to be on for Mr. KABC on Friday so, unless I forget, I’ll probably call in. (“EVEN THOUGH I”) I’ve done this. I’ve been there, done that, and I don’t really know how it’s going to sound starting from scratch again unless the screeners know who I am. You’d think I’d be legend in this business. I still wonder if, perhaps, my call might’ve ended that “Jesus Christ Show” somehow.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: AT THE TIME OF TRANSCRIBING THIS TAPE IN AUGUST 2001, “THE JESUS CHRIST SHOW” CAN BE HEARD ON KFI SUNDAY MORNINGS.)
Q: To realize what you’re really doing with your show as opposed to what you think you’re doing can be very devastating to those perpetrators. (“SSS”)
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Q: Barbara’s interviewing Whitley Strieber tonight. It’s not going to (“DO”) get better for them because they’re just killing the messenger. They’re ignoring the message and it’s a loving message. A humorous message. A wonderful message. Unless you love evil and wealth more than — well I’m being — (“I”) you know me. I’m always saying things a little bit overboard but you know what I’m getting at. You have to love the truth. Honesty is the basis of all wisdom. A lot of people could use that information.
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Q: Illustrated.
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Q: So it’s Tuesday afternoon, July 10th, and I listened to Barbara interviewing Whitley last night. And I tape recorded it. And I heard one, in particular, very clear EVP instance. Listen.
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W: (clip) . . . if he had been at 25,000 feet seeing a Skyhook balloon at 60,000 feet, it would not have appeared to have been — to appear to be of tremendous size to him.
B: (clip) I wouldn’t think he would use that word. No.
W: (clip) No.
B: (clip) No question. (“WOULDN’T HELP”) What . . .
( . . . )
Q: Oh and here’s another one (“THAT”) followed a couple minutes after the previous one.
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W: (clip) . . . been any number of other cases of military aircraft encounters—but I don’t it’s been documented—that have involved, (as the) listener said, the disappearance of aircraft and aircrew. (“ADD”) And, of course, there was that incident we talked about briefly earlier. The admission of the British CAA . . .
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Q: These two EVP instances were heard just prior to the Pacific time two o’clock a.m. hour, the end of the fourth hour of the five-hour show.
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Q: By the way, Whitley claims to have 500,000 letters from people who’ve had alien encounters over the years. And from all of these many letters, he selected one to read that didn’t really have much of a point other than aliens coming up the side of the house after a woman, who clearly saw four fingers grasping the window ledge before she went screaming away. And that’s all she could remember. After that, ‘who knows what might have happened?’
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Q: So it’s Wednesday night, July 11 . . . Barbara’s hosting again tonight. Isn’t that unusual? It’s always been Ian has had the more significant participation in the past when Art’s been away but suddenly it’s Barbara and I have to wonder if it’s because Ian made such a fool of himself when he responded to my call that started this mess. Anyway, I’m sending her an Email. I write:
Subject: Saturday Night CallDate: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:12:52 -0700From: Mark Russell Bell <markrussellbell@earthlink.net>Organization: https://testament.orgTo: bsimpsonksfo@yahoo.com
Barbara,
What I was prevented from addressing Saturday night when we spoke duringthe broadcast was Ian Punnett’s comment the previous Monday evening that“This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website . . . youturned this into an infomercial.” The unjustly unfavorable impressiongiven was that my website is a commercial endeavor and this is not thecase. The case study presented at https://testament.org is free and wasnever intended to be a source of financial profit for myself. Iattempted to correct this injury to my reputation in a timely way bycalling you. After you terminated my call with scolding comments ofyour own, I called back and made my feelings clear to the producer. Herefused to give me his name yet instructed me to call the followingevening when Ian was the host. This I did on Sunday, getting through asthe opening theme music could be heard; however, the producer soonreturned to the line and said, “Sorry, Mark, we’re not going to get toyour call tonight.”
It appears that the policies of corporate media are in conflict withspiritual and social issues such as freedom of speech. I did point outto your producer that Gary Lockwood had been able to give out hiswebsite address (where the cost for an autograph is $20).Barbara, the newspaper that libeled Art Bell recently printed aretraction once the staff learned the truth of the situation. As IanPunnett’s Email address is not serviceable due to “Quota violation,” Iam contacting you to pass on my urgent request to all concerned with“Coast to Coast AM.” I do not intend to seek legal recourse to addressthis situation yet I am well aware of the perpetuity of a higher courtwhere no act of goodness goes ignored.
Mark Russell Bell
Barbara,
What I was prevented from addressing Saturday night when we spoke duringthe broadcast was Ian Punnett’s comment the previous Monday evening that“This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website . . . youturned this into an infomercial.” The unjustly unfavorable impressiongiven was that my website is a commercial endeavor and this is not thecase. The case study presented at https://testament.org is free and wasnever intended to be a source of financial profit for myself. Iattempted to correct this injury to my reputation in a timely way bycalling you. After you terminated my call with scolding comments ofyour own, I called back and made my feelings clear to the producer. Herefused to give me his name yet instructed me to call the followingevening when Ian was the host. This I did on Sunday, getting through asthe opening theme music could be heard; however, the producer soonreturned to the line and said, “Sorry, Mark, we’re not going to get toyour call tonight.”
It appears that the policies of corporate media are in conflict withspiritual and social issues such as freedom of speech. I did point outto your producer that Gary Lockwood had been able to give out hiswebsite address (where the cost for an autograph is $20).Barbara, the newspaper that libeled Art Bell recently printed aretraction once the staff learned the truth of the situation. As IanPunnett’s Email address is not serviceable due to “Quota violation,” Iam contacting you to pass on my urgent request to all concerned with“Coast to Coast AM.” I do not intend to seek legal recourse to addressthis situation yet I am well aware of the perpetuity of a higher courtwhere no act of goodness goes ignored.
Mark Russell Bell
Q: So I just sent the Email. It’s 12:12 or 12:13; meanwhile, listen to the commercial on the broadcast.
B: . . . you’ll see all kinds of things there. I look at it and I love it and half the stuff I don’t even know what it is because I’m not that much into that kind of technology. But it’s wonderful and it’s got things like the CCRadio and the new Versacorder Talkshow Recorder, the Super BayGen Radio, the LED Flashlight and all kinds of interesting things that you never see anywhere else. And P.S., I want to tell you C. Crane is one of the only companies that never gives or sells your personal information to anyone. (If) you’re in favor of privacy, that’s good to know. Call now. Ask for the free C. Crane Company catalog. You can have one sent to a friend or a family member. I’ve done that. (gives number) or (gives number). That’s (gives number) for the free C. Crane Company catalog or (gives number).
A: Do you want to melt away excess body fat and trim those unwanted inches without strict dieting or strenuous exercise? Now it’s possible. Introducing Ultimate Slim, an all-natural, scientifically-designed formula to metabolize your fat into energy with —
( . . . )
Q: So it’s Friday the 13th. I guess I was last talking about Whitley. What can you say about a man who claims to have encountered the Angel Michael and then his next book after The Key is The Last Vampire? He says he’s going to do an autograph tour to support the book. . . .
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: IAN PUNNETT’S EMAIL REMAINED INACTIVE FOR MORE THAN A MONTH AFTER I FIRST TRIED TO SEND HIM AN EMAIL. HERE IS THE EMAIL THAT I EVENTUALLY SENT TO HIM.”)
B: . . . you’ll see all kinds of things there. I look at it and I love it and half the stuff I don’t even know what it is because I’m not that much into that kind of technology. But it’s wonderful and it’s got things like the CCRadio and the new Versacorder Talkshow Recorder, the Super BayGen Radio, the LED Flashlight and all kinds of interesting things that you never see anywhere else. And P.S., I want to tell you C. Crane is one of the only companies that never gives or sells your personal information to anyone. (If) you’re in favor of privacy, that’s good to know. Call now. Ask for the free C. Crane Company catalog. You can have one sent to a friend or a family member. I’ve done that. (gives number) or (gives number). That’s (gives number) for the free C. Crane Company catalog or (gives number).
A: Do you want to melt away excess body fat and trim those unwanted inches without strict dieting or strenuous exercise? Now it’s possible. Introducing Ultimate Slim, an all-natural, scientifically-designed formula to metabolize your fat into energy with —
( . . . )
Q: So it’s Friday the 13th. I guess I was last talking about Whitley. What can you say about a man who claims to have encountered the Angel Michael and then his next book after The Key is The Last Vampire? He says he’s going to do an autograph tour to support the book. . . .
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: IAN PUNNETT’S EMAIL REMAINED INACTIVE FOR MORE THAN A MONTH AFTER I FIRST TRIED TO SEND HIM AN EMAIL. HERE IS THE EMAIL THAT I EVENTUALLY SENT TO HIM.”)
Subject: My Last Call (July 2)Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:55:02 -0700From: Mark Russell Bell <markrussellbell@earthlink.net>Organization: https://testament.orgTo: punnett@mindspring.com
Ian,
Here is a copy of the Email I tried to send you on Wednesday, July 4th.Listeners may have been given the wrong impression when you responded tomy call with “This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website .. . you turned this into an infomercial.” Then, to the following calleryou said, “Where are you going to take us? Hopefully, not to plug yourbusiness.” The unjustly unfavorable impression given was that thehttps://testament.org website is a commercial endeavor and this is notthe case.
I don’t think it was your intention to leave listeners with an incorrectimpression so I attempted to make this clear in a timely way by callingBarbara Simpson on Saturday night July 7th yet she wouldn’t let mecomment. A producer told me to call back on Sunday and speak with you.This I did on July 8th, getting through as the opening theme music couldbe heard; however, the producer soon returned to the line and said,“Sorry, Mark, we’re not going to get to your call tonight.”
Due to these circumstances, please consider reading the news release(provided below) during the broadcast.
Mark Russell BellSubject: Monday Night CallDate: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:20:54 -0700From: Mark Russell Bell <markrussellbell@earthlink.net>Organization: https://testament.orgTo: bsimpsonksfo@yahoo.com, artbell@aol.com, punnett@mindspring.com
Dear Barbara, Art and Ian,
In consideration of the response to my call on the Monday night show, Ihope you’ll consider the following as originally contributed by myselfto the “Coast To Coast A.M.” message boards on January 28, 2001.
“Honesty should always be an objective for participants and listeners of‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ Sometimes the social order can make one a victimeven of prosperity if not of one’s greed or that of others. We shouldnever lose sight of the fact that what our actions and feelingsdemonstrate makes more sense than any words assigned to them; and thatthere are always opportunities for receiving and sharing God’s Lovethrough each other’s help and kindness. Our responsibilities can be freeof anxiety through striving to be truthful while remembering that thereare no true borders or distinctions between people.
“An article in the Fall 1998 RAND REVIEW mentioned the informationrevolution transforming the nature of conflict and predicted ‘thebeginning of an age in which information and knowledge are the keyelements of power.’ This is a false premise as there is no power orresponsibility that doesn’t serve truth and goodness. The source ofpopularity for ‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ is people’s desire to learn truth.Providing an unrestricted forum for comparing cases of the unexplainedallows an opportunity to gain a better understanding of the forces, Loveand forgiveness governing our lives. Giving in to fear is a danger yetthe awareness of Love frees us from limitations. Let us hope that Artand his co-hosts are aware of their own ‘power’ with the support andfaith that has been shown encouraging them to embrace new challenges andopportunities with inspiration.”
What I was attempting to communicate in this post was that you have theexperience and abilities necessary to explain complicated circumstances(not only to listeners yet also to associates and corporate executives)as long as there is the awareness of the importance in meeting achallenge not from a perspective of fear yet, instead, from arealization of Love. Yes, I do think—and it has been my hope—that youwould be able to communicate my own circumstances as my case providesproof of God’s Love with documentary-style evidence that we each have aFriend in the Subconscious of each person we encounter. I might addthat I’ve also found life much less stressful in being honest about pastmisunderstandings, mistakes and shortcomings; just as it is alsoimportant to embrace forgiveness of one’s self and others. I imaginethat you would agree with me that we are always evolving into adifferent, more aware individual. I guess the Elmer Gantry metaphor canbe of value to mention in this respect along with the fact that nomistake is as damaging as any resultant cover-up attempt. In otherwords, we have no power over how others respond to ourselves; however,being honest makes it possible to resolve a difficult situation.Life is so much more satisfying since I was given the knowledge andopportunity to give back to Spirit in return for the countless giftsreceived every day. Despite this awareness, I must remind myself thatmy own circumstances are trivial in comparison to the predicament ofSpirit that I would like others to consider, whether an individualrefers to Such as Creator, God, Christ, Consciousness, Living EnergyUniverse, Force, Mother Nature, etc.
I would also like to make it clear that I’ve always felt comfortabletalking to each of you (and also Ramona) and hope you feel the same waywhen it comes to speaking to me. If you have any questions, let meknow.
Mark Russell Bell
CASE STUDY OF EXPANDED CONSCIOUSNESS AND REINCARNATIONDOCUMENTED FREE ON THE INTERNET AT https://testament.org
LOS ANGELES – Q&A interview transcripts and journals document events usually equated with the ‘supernatural’ or ‘miraculous’ in TESTAMENT. A free Internet edition is available at https://testament.org
The book evolved after Mark Russell Bell worked as a publicity writer for Paramount Pictures and researched in his spare time ‘talking poltergeists’ throughout history, including the Bell Witch, Mary Jobson and Isle of Man cases. He then learned about a contemporary family experiencing the talking poltergeist phenomena and traveled to rural Oklahoma for interviews. Centrahoma’s Bell/Mc Wethy family relate their interaction with a variety of spirit voices, including aliens.
Among the events experienced by Mark Russell Bell in Oklahoma were materialization of coins and other objects, spirit laughter and groaning, and insect phenomena. Upon returning to his native Los Angeles, Bell was shocked as the phenomena continued and escalated. He stopped working as a publicity writer for Paramount—the film studio with the familiar mountain logo—as he began transcribing the tapes. He discovered that interview microcassettes contained Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP) and unattributed sounds. When he decided to record over a portion of tape to avoid dealing with sexuality, the microcassette was destroyed by the unseen Collaborator. Bell soon began to realize the greater implications of what on the surface were a succession of events long associated with the ‘paranormal.’ He decided to continue conducting interviews about the unexplained and turned his attention to Hollywood where ‘every movie made is a miracle.’
He comments, “I found parallels between the account of the Angelic Force called ‘Michael’ by the family in Oklahoma with what has been recorded about the Angel Who spoke to Moses in the Mount, was mentioned as an ‘angelical spirit’ in the Nostradamus 1555 letter to his son, used Edgar Cayce as a channel, was referred to as ‘The Mahatmas’ by THE SECRET DOCTRINE author Madame Blavatsky, communicated via the Ouija Board to inspire the MESSAGES FROM MICHAEL books, and was glimpsed in a near death experience by Dr. George Ritchie as described by Dr. Raymond A. Moody in LIFE-AFTER-LIFE.”
Photographs at the testament.org website document spirits and apparitions, bushes that went up in flames behind Bell’s condo, a bigfoot, and entities at a window that some believe to be aliens. The publication date is January 9, 1997 and the first portion of the follow-up book NEW TESTAMENT found exclusively on the Internet was published on July 20, 1997. The ISBN is 0-9654916-0-9 and the Library of Congress Catalog Number is 96-71184.
“Angelic Guidance manifesting in the life of an entertainment industry publicity writer is a metaphor reminding us that we each are part of a divine process as we create from our subconscious and shared Superconscious mind,” states Bell, whose lineage chart reveals ties with film directors Alfred Hitchcock (“Rebecca,” “Family Plot”) and Ken Russell (“Tommy,” “Altered States”).
Bell has been a guest on thirteen radio programs where he has shared his experiences, including the nationally syndicated “The Edge of Reality” hosted by Ken Dashow on December 4, 1999 when Bell commented, “Spirit is materializing around certain individuals to create metaphors for others. And that’s what happened in my case.”
The bell synchronicity in his life culminated when he became aware of having lived a previous life in Egypt as Bel-Marduk also known as Ra-Ta (Sun-Earth) the priest. Visiting an antique store several blocks from his home in Echo Park, Bell found an Egyptian pendant with a profile of his exact likeness. In 1932 Edgar Cayce channeled the message that Ra-Ta would return to the world in 1998. That year, people discovered Bell via the Internet.
As Bell observes in “Publishing Information” at https://testament.org – “Reading TESTAMENT illuminates the lost knowledge of the relationships of man and the carnal world with those changes that fade or fall away in their various effect, making plain the interpretation of death. The reader’s consciousness is expanded; thus the ‘uncovering’ of the Hall of Records. . . . Spirit has made my life an open book so that others can expand their consciousness.”
The connection between Bel-Marduk and Ra is a subject of the work of Zecharia Sitchin. In Sitchin’s recent book THE COSMIC CODE, ancient texts are cited concerning Marduk’s emergence from the Great Pyramid. Sitchin identifies these texts on pages 59/84 as “precursors of the New Testament tale of the death, entombment, and resurrection of Jesus. Sentenced to exile, Ra/Marduk became Amen-Ra, the unseen god. . . . scholars seriously debated at the turn of this century whether his story was a prototype of the story of Christ.”
At Paramount, Mark Russell Bell contributed to publicity campaigns for more than 100 films, including “Ghost,” several “Star Trek” films, “Scrooged,” “Fire In The Sky,” “Dead Again,” a reissue of “The Ten Commandments,” “The Butcher’s Wife,” “Fatal Attraction,” “The Godfather Part III,” “Forrest Gump,” “Braveheart,” “The Naked Gun,” “Pet Sematary,” “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade” and “We’re No Angels.”
Bell says that after his experiences he perceives watching movies or television shows as distractions to the real and important work Spirit calls us to do: helping other members of our human & animal family and stopping the destruction of the Earth’s eco-system.
The Wireless Flash News Service’s David Moye quipped after his interview with Mark Russell Bell, “Bell also claims he has the power to raise the dead because whenever he meets people, they start talking about their past lives.”
Background information https://testament.org/testament/pguild.htmlPhoto of burned bushes https://testament.org/testament/c38.htmlPhoto of Egyptian pendant https://testament.org/testament/c27.htmlPhoto of a spirit https://testament.org/testament/c16.htmlPhoto of “aliens” https://testament.org/testament/c19.htmlPhoto of a “bigfoot” https://testament.org/testament/c50.html
Ian,
Here is a copy of the Email I tried to send you on Wednesday, July 4th.Listeners may have been given the wrong impression when you responded tomy call with “This is all just supposed to be a plug for your website .. . you turned this into an infomercial.” Then, to the following calleryou said, “Where are you going to take us? Hopefully, not to plug yourbusiness.” The unjustly unfavorable impression given was that thehttps://testament.org website is a commercial endeavor and this is notthe case.
I don’t think it was your intention to leave listeners with an incorrectimpression so I attempted to make this clear in a timely way by callingBarbara Simpson on Saturday night July 7th yet she wouldn’t let mecomment. A producer told me to call back on Sunday and speak with you.This I did on July 8th, getting through as the opening theme music couldbe heard; however, the producer soon returned to the line and said,“Sorry, Mark, we’re not going to get to your call tonight.”
Due to these circumstances, please consider reading the news release(provided below) during the broadcast.
Mark Russell BellSubject: Monday Night CallDate: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:20:54 -0700From: Mark Russell Bell <markrussellbell@earthlink.net>Organization: https://testament.orgTo: bsimpsonksfo@yahoo.com, artbell@aol.com, punnett@mindspring.com
Dear Barbara, Art and Ian,
In consideration of the response to my call on the Monday night show, Ihope you’ll consider the following as originally contributed by myselfto the “Coast To Coast A.M.” message boards on January 28, 2001.
“Honesty should always be an objective for participants and listeners of‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ Sometimes the social order can make one a victimeven of prosperity if not of one’s greed or that of others. We shouldnever lose sight of the fact that what our actions and feelingsdemonstrate makes more sense than any words assigned to them; and thatthere are always opportunities for receiving and sharing God’s Lovethrough each other’s help and kindness. Our responsibilities can be freeof anxiety through striving to be truthful while remembering that thereare no true borders or distinctions between people.
“An article in the Fall 1998 RAND REVIEW mentioned the informationrevolution transforming the nature of conflict and predicted ‘thebeginning of an age in which information and knowledge are the keyelements of power.’ This is a false premise as there is no power orresponsibility that doesn’t serve truth and goodness. The source ofpopularity for ‘Coast to Coast A.M.’ is people’s desire to learn truth.Providing an unrestricted forum for comparing cases of the unexplainedallows an opportunity to gain a better understanding of the forces, Loveand forgiveness governing our lives. Giving in to fear is a danger yetthe awareness of Love frees us from limitations. Let us hope that Artand his co-hosts are aware of their own ‘power’ with the support andfaith that has been shown encouraging them to embrace new challenges andopportunities with inspiration.”
What I was attempting to communicate in this post was that you have theexperience and abilities necessary to explain complicated circumstances(not only to listeners yet also to associates and corporate executives)as long as there is the awareness of the importance in meeting achallenge not from a perspective of fear yet, instead, from arealization of Love. Yes, I do think—and it has been my hope—that youwould be able to communicate my own circumstances as my case providesproof of God’s Love with documentary-style evidence that we each have aFriend in the Subconscious of each person we encounter. I might addthat I’ve also found life much less stressful in being honest about pastmisunderstandings, mistakes and shortcomings; just as it is alsoimportant to embrace forgiveness of one’s self and others. I imaginethat you would agree with me that we are always evolving into adifferent, more aware individual. I guess the Elmer Gantry metaphor canbe of value to mention in this respect along with the fact that nomistake is as damaging as any resultant cover-up attempt. In otherwords, we have no power over how others respond to ourselves; however,being honest makes it possible to resolve a difficult situation.Life is so much more satisfying since I was given the knowledge andopportunity to give back to Spirit in return for the countless giftsreceived every day. Despite this awareness, I must remind myself thatmy own circumstances are trivial in comparison to the predicament ofSpirit that I would like others to consider, whether an individualrefers to Such as Creator, God, Christ, Consciousness, Living EnergyUniverse, Force, Mother Nature, etc.
I would also like to make it clear that I’ve always felt comfortabletalking to each of you (and also Ramona) and hope you feel the same waywhen it comes to speaking to me. If you have any questions, let meknow.
Mark Russell Bell
CASE STUDY OF EXPANDED CONSCIOUSNESS AND REINCARNATIONDOCUMENTED FREE ON THE INTERNET AT https://testament.org
LOS ANGELES – Q&A interview transcripts and journals document events usually equated with the ‘supernatural’ or ‘miraculous’ in TESTAMENT. A free Internet edition is available at https://testament.org
The book evolved after Mark Russell Bell worked as a publicity writer for Paramount Pictures and researched in his spare time ‘talking poltergeists’ throughout history, including the Bell Witch, Mary Jobson and Isle of Man cases. He then learned about a contemporary family experiencing the talking poltergeist phenomena and traveled to rural Oklahoma for interviews. Centrahoma’s Bell/Mc Wethy family relate their interaction with a variety of spirit voices, including aliens.
Among the events experienced by Mark Russell Bell in Oklahoma were materialization of coins and other objects, spirit laughter and groaning, and insect phenomena. Upon returning to his native Los Angeles, Bell was shocked as the phenomena continued and escalated. He stopped working as a publicity writer for Paramount—the film studio with the familiar mountain logo—as he began transcribing the tapes. He discovered that interview microcassettes contained Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP) and unattributed sounds. When he decided to record over a portion of tape to avoid dealing with sexuality, the microcassette was destroyed by the unseen Collaborator. Bell soon began to realize the greater implications of what on the surface were a succession of events long associated with the ‘paranormal.’ He decided to continue conducting interviews about the unexplained and turned his attention to Hollywood where ‘every movie made is a miracle.’
He comments, “I found parallels between the account of the Angelic Force called ‘Michael’ by the family in Oklahoma with what has been recorded about the Angel Who spoke to Moses in the Mount, was mentioned as an ‘angelical spirit’ in the Nostradamus 1555 letter to his son, used Edgar Cayce as a channel, was referred to as ‘The Mahatmas’ by THE SECRET DOCTRINE author Madame Blavatsky, communicated via the Ouija Board to inspire the MESSAGES FROM MICHAEL books, and was glimpsed in a near death experience by Dr. George Ritchie as described by Dr. Raymond A. Moody in LIFE-AFTER-LIFE.”
Photographs at the testament.org website document spirits and apparitions, bushes that went up in flames behind Bell’s condo, a bigfoot, and entities at a window that some believe to be aliens. The publication date is January 9, 1997 and the first portion of the follow-up book NEW TESTAMENT found exclusively on the Internet was published on July 20, 1997. The ISBN is 0-9654916-0-9 and the Library of Congress Catalog Number is 96-71184.
“Angelic Guidance manifesting in the life of an entertainment industry publicity writer is a metaphor reminding us that we each are part of a divine process as we create from our subconscious and shared Superconscious mind,” states Bell, whose lineage chart reveals ties with film directors Alfred Hitchcock (“Rebecca,” “Family Plot”) and Ken Russell (“Tommy,” “Altered States”).
Bell has been a guest on thirteen radio programs where he has shared his experiences, including the nationally syndicated “The Edge of Reality” hosted by Ken Dashow on December 4, 1999 when Bell commented, “Spirit is materializing around certain individuals to create metaphors for others. And that’s what happened in my case.”
The bell synchronicity in his life culminated when he became aware of having lived a previous life in Egypt as Bel-Marduk also known as Ra-Ta (Sun-Earth) the priest. Visiting an antique store several blocks from his home in Echo Park, Bell found an Egyptian pendant with a profile of his exact likeness. In 1932 Edgar Cayce channeled the message that Ra-Ta would return to the world in 1998. That year, people discovered Bell via the Internet.
As Bell observes in “Publishing Information” at https://testament.org – “Reading TESTAMENT illuminates the lost knowledge of the relationships of man and the carnal world with those changes that fade or fall away in their various effect, making plain the interpretation of death. The reader’s consciousness is expanded; thus the ‘uncovering’ of the Hall of Records. . . . Spirit has made my life an open book so that others can expand their consciousness.”
The connection between Bel-Marduk and Ra is a subject of the work of Zecharia Sitchin. In Sitchin’s recent book THE COSMIC CODE, ancient texts are cited concerning Marduk’s emergence from the Great Pyramid. Sitchin identifies these texts on pages 59/84 as “precursors of the New Testament tale of the death, entombment, and resurrection of Jesus. Sentenced to exile, Ra/Marduk became Amen-Ra, the unseen god. . . . scholars seriously debated at the turn of this century whether his story was a prototype of the story of Christ.”
At Paramount, Mark Russell Bell contributed to publicity campaigns for more than 100 films, including “Ghost,” several “Star Trek” films, “Scrooged,” “Fire In The Sky,” “Dead Again,” a reissue of “The Ten Commandments,” “The Butcher’s Wife,” “Fatal Attraction,” “The Godfather Part III,” “Forrest Gump,” “Braveheart,” “The Naked Gun,” “Pet Sematary,” “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade” and “We’re No Angels.”
Bell says that after his experiences he perceives watching movies or television shows as distractions to the real and important work Spirit calls us to do: helping other members of our human & animal family and stopping the destruction of the Earth’s eco-system.
The Wireless Flash News Service’s David Moye quipped after his interview with Mark Russell Bell, “Bell also claims he has the power to raise the dead because whenever he meets people, they start talking about their past lives.”
Background information https://testament.org/testament/pguild.htmlPhoto of burned bushes https://testament.org/testament/c38.htmlPhoto of Egyptian pendant https://testament.org/testament/c27.htmlPhoto of a spirit https://testament.org/testament/c16.htmlPhoto of “aliens” https://testament.org/testament/c19.htmlPhoto of a “bigfoot” https://testament.org/testament/c50.html
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