1999 INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST — TAPE #527, SIDE #2
Q: Mark Russell Bell
L: Ellen Russell
B: Michael Russell
and if you fall, I’ll pick you up and if you court this disaster I’ll point you home . . . You think we’re here to play a game of who loves more than whom And if you call, I will answer
Q: So we have the disaster theme, the home theme — all the usual themes; the love theme and the game theme. (“WELL”) Just look at the cover of the first book. By the way, I just did my laundry again. It’s Friday. It’s laundry day. After dropping off my mother, I did my laundry and now I’m picking up a few supplies. (song continues) That’s another theme. I can’t tell if he’s saying “rebuild,” “rebel” or “reveal”. They’ve come a long way since “If I Had $1,000,000.” (new song begins)
I want you to know . . .
Q: So I just went into Radio Shack to get some batteries for the tape recorder. And, of course, my poor mom — all she does is watch TV all day and the reception is terrible so, ironically, I thought I might get her a better antenna even though I don’t think she should be watching it at all. What a crazy situation. Of course, they tried to sell me the most expensive model. I said, “Which one do you recommend?” And they always recommend the most expensive one. If that doesn’t tell you what life is in this day and age, then I don’t know what would. How sad that all people like my mother have is television. That’s all she has. She sits on her bed playing Solitaire and watching TV all day. Of course, my book didn’t open up any new horizons for her, to put it mildly. This will be the last of the (1999) cassettes. These will be the two ‘unplanned’ tapes.
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Q: So I’m almost at the apartment building. I’ll have to put in new batteries when I get home. Today, that “Austin Powers” sequel is coming out and I just wonder if people ever think about what they’re seeing, about ‘Is this really what I need in my life?’ Do they consider — no, they don’t.
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Q: To give you some idea of what my life is like, I spend a lot of time on the Internet. So what better way to acquaint you with my progress or lack thereof in this arena (than) by sharing with you some of my Email? I have sent out my most recent press release to a large number of people. For example — I’m going down my ‘Email Sent’ list — it’s in alphabetical order. There are a lot like this one here from ALCat just simply saying “Subject: remove” — after they received my press release. In this case, I had been receiving these “Osirisgrams” from this individual but all of a sudden—after my press release—I got the old “remove” so I guess it’s alright for me to receive Email from these characters but when I send something back I get the old “remove.” This one was dated February 21st of this year. So let’s see — going down the list, we see — oh here’s one. From “Audiolab.” Actually his name is ‘edge____’ and then his web provider (is his Email address). I basically first contacted him after reading one of his messages on the Wire newsgroup. Or is it a bulletin board? I guess it’s a bulletin board. This time — his final Email to me — it turned out he was — he said that he was going to become a minister (on a message posted at the Wire reflector site). But, anyway, in this last Email from him to me, he just wrote:
What if the hokey pokey really IS what it’s all about?
testament.org is a news source consisting of Q&A interviews, journals and photographic evidence proving God’s love and reincarnation. What other news could be more relevant than this?
Good luck on your adventure, Joann
Thank you for the pointer to the web site, I downloaded the “boook” is this the source material for the Karios book to be coming out?
Thank you for your time and attention.
Q: This was (dated) Wednesday, October 7, 1998. I had some mail — sometimes when I was listening to the Art Bell show I would send Email messages to his guests. Of course, now I do listen to Hilly and so my rule isn’t quite as strong as it was about never listening to Art. I mean once I accidentally listened to him for a few minutes because they were playing back the final hour (of the previous night’s show) but — anyway, I see problems with Hilly’s show too in terms of the same old people with the same old military background. I mean you really have to wonder about Art and Hilly. I mean Hilly says he’s a journalist but I don’t know. When that person started talking about the clandestine technology and Hilly wouldn’t let him get off the subject (Tesla), it made me think Majestic 12. Okay, going down the list some more — a lot of Bells (“PEOPLE” “WHEN”). Sometimes when I see the name Bell, I’ll send an Email. It hasn’t really gotten me anywhere. (“BUT”) Going down the list — I don’t want to waste tape space on this but — a lot of Email from my webmaster. He’s been pretty good, all things considered. (“OKAY”) He’s very busy these days. There’s a Marc Bell I got some Email from because we were getting confused — someone confused us. He’s at some UFO organization in Great Britain. He wrote basically — I guess (“SOME [O]N[E]”) Max Burns got us confused so Marc just wrote to me:
Many thanx for the info, so that’s where some of my mail has gone eh Max? (he’s a nice chap).
And another co-incidence is my studio engineer (I run a recording studio/record label etc. as a business) is Mark Russell!
My wife is a theology graduate too . . . . . but as you’ve found out I’m a rather old UFO researcher.
All the best,Marc Bell
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Q: So I thought, “Oh this guy would be perfect to get my press release: freedom of speech, etc. So I sent him my press release and this is what I get back. Talk about freedom of speech in the ’90s.
This is to confirm you have permission to reproduce the FT article ‘Stone Throwing Spook of Little Dixie’ on the Testament net site.
Joe McNally will be reviewing your book in Fortean Times number 104.
Marduk has already spoken recently :
I think the Email program messed up – am sending myself one to be sure …
I wanted to thank you for your e-mail – I’m always adding links – in addition I wanted to pass on recent channelings of Marduk from three different channelers archived at :
Been collecting them since last September – interesting stuff
Have you seen the following?
I find the Surveyor images more compelling than those of Pathfinder — but, then again, I’ve driven the freeway north of Phoenix.
Would you provide some context for your work, explaining your thoughts on this new face?
I found my New Face on Mars in the late evening of April 6, 1999. (My birthday!) while just loading random coordinates into the Armchair Astronaut. When I saw that face I almost fell off my chair. All of the images of it taken to date are from Viking. There were actually 9 different images taken of it over a 2 year period. 8 of them are featured on my page and I have yet to find a copy of the 9th. Naturally, I’m very excited about it and can’t wait until the MOC images this same area again!
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Q: So I checked my Email after sharing with you those comments and again I’m getting porno spams. (“I ME[AN]”) I don’t think what I send to people is spam. I think there’s a big difference between what I send — nicely worded press release and these — this one for example. It says: “Subject: FREE PICS AND LIVE VIDEO (28635) . . . Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:39:56 -0400 (EDT) . . .”
Continued coverage of the war in Kosovo
Text of Clinton’s Address to Nation
The Caspian Connection: Pipeline Politics and the Balkan War Carl Limbacher and Caron Grich
A new virus is currently spreading across the Internet
Read Carl Limbacher’s exclusive report on Inside Cover today:
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Q: The reason why I find it interesting to go to the Wire — that’s the U2 fan newsgroup/bulletin board/whatever is because, after my Email postings there, the way people just dismiss it and continue their hawking and selling of CDs and other fan paraphernalia. It just really — I don’t know. It’s just fascinating to me how trivial life can be for these celebrity worshipers. I mean go there and read it some time. I mean it’s just a mentality that’s unfortunate.
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Q: I have to laugh. I just went to the “Sightings” website that does have some good articles mixed in with all the shlock — even though, my goodness, they would never think of mentioning me. But there’s a review of the new book version of Joseph Firmage’s website. This review is by Mark Williams for the Red Herring magazine. “It’s 292 pages and costs $24.95.” So that’s more than my book and my book is 1,100 pages. Anyway, I won’t bore you with the review but I just think that’s ironic. I’ll have to send him some Email about my website.
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Q: So I’m getting ready to go pick Ellen up from dialysis. It should be soon that transportation is arranged through one of the various companies that provides that service for the elderly or disabled. Anyway, I’m reading at the gym these days and today at the laundromat the book that my brother loaned me entitled Monster: living off the big screen by John Gregory Dunne. All I can say is that it confirms all of my worst suspicions about the Hollywood process. I mean here’s proof.
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Q: I’m very upset Variety hasn’t called me back. It’s been a week now since I called. So I’ll check my mail tomorrow and see if there’s a letter. If not, I’m going to have to place another call because this — I mean what are they trying to do? (“WHAT A”) What is their plan? I have to make a payment. I don’t want to be late with my payment. I don’t want to get a bad reputation based on their ineptitude or worse. Thievery?
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Q: But really all books about Hollywood are evidence. Michael also loaned me A Pound of Flesh: Perilous Tales of How to Produce Movies in Hollywood by Art Linson; and Hello, He Lied and Other Truths From the Hollywood Trenches by Lynda Obst.
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Q: While I was making lunch, there was a telephone call. But when I checked my answering machine there was no message. That’s the kind of thing that bothers me.
(TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: MY BROTHER CAME BY FOR A VISIT ON JUNE 12, 1999.)
Q: So put the Gavin Dillard article away. (“OKAY”) So Michael is going to — I told him. Last week I called Variety and Variety still has not called back. I checked my mail today. There is no mail. I’m livid. I don’t want to get a bad name in Hollywood. (“SO I’M”) Going to call on Monday. (“I”) Michael, didn’t you have a — did you call Variety last week after you had a problem? What should I do?
B: Well I don’ t understand. What’s the problem?
Q: They had a placement charge for me when they said that they would take it off. So I called my account rep and she said to fax her a copy. So I faxed her a copy. I called her the next day and she said she received the fax. I haven’t heard from her since and I leave my answering machine on when I’m not here to answer the phone. There have been no messages.
B: Don’t pay until —
Q: The deadline is coming,
B: Well don’t pay — deadlines don’t mean anything. Don’t pay until you get it resolved.
Q: Okay, do they always return your calls right away when you deal with Variety?
B: Not always. (“[SO]M[ETI]MES THEY’RE”) They — you know, it takes a while.
Q: Like last week you had a problem. (“BUT”) Did they call you back finally?
Q: Was that Variety or The Hollywood Reporter?
B: I don’t — (“REME[MBER]” “THEY’RE” “I” “CALL BUT”) talk to them all, all the time.
Q: So who did you call, though, when they don’t call you back? Like let’s say the editor doesn’t call you back. Who would you call
B: You just keep calling until you get them. (“IF YOU”) The more you call —
Q: Do you call the person above them? Like the publisher?
B: No, if you keep calling them, they’ll just talk to you to get you off their back.
Q: Well I think I want to call the publisher.
B: The publisher of?
B: Oh okay. Yeah, well his number’s in there.
Q: So, anyway — so also I’ve been doing a few — I was reading some of my Email yesterday. Here’s one of them. Why don’t you read this one real quick? (“K”) Just a sample. This is one that I — one of my many Email messages — (“T[O] A[RT]”) poor Art Bell. Read it out loud.
Isn’t there some way you could honestly tell others about your situation? It can only be one shared by thousands of other people. Those who wouldn’t understand are not being honest with themselves. I have found a big part of finding peace and forgiveness is being honest and truthful — about such things as my career in Hollywood that included writing for porno magazines, cover-ups (“Braveheart”), participating in the cult of celebrity, taking more from the world than I gave back — and the list goes on. Sometimes you can’t be understood by everyone yet there is satisfaction in trying to please God.
Thank goodness Spirit opened my eyes and I can share my experiences and what I’ve learned—not that I’ve stopped making mistakes—so that there is one more possibility whereby people can become aware of some of the ways we exploit others through corrupt social structures without really understanding our responsibility. I’ve come to view the Earth as a planet that shows us what we’re capable of doing — “Well that’s what other people do.”
For me, coming to understand life better brought me the belief that the best way to prove appreciation of God is by helping others. With World War III on the horizon as the economic necessity of the corrupt social order, I can only strive and hope my efforts to share proof of God’s love could help bring about alternatives. When recognizing my own mistakes, I’ve found it best to admit them and simply explain how such came to be. If one doubts that God is a God of Love, the proof of this is recognized in God attempting to reveal truth through all-too-human messengers.
B: That’s ni(ce) — yeah. (“I LIKE”)
Q: He never responds, needless to say. So what was I going to — (“SO”) so basically, as I was telling you before, as one of these messengers —
Q: I mean — (“I MEAN OKAY” “LET’S”) let’s say — I mean you know my case. What if it had happened to you? What would you do?
B: Which case? (“NO”)
Q: What happened to me — having to communicate my experience of God. Being selected by God — (“TO”) share my (“WHAT”) experience with God.
B: It’s hard — I don’t have — (“I”) I can’t relate. I mean it’s — (“I”) I mean I —
Q: No but put yourself in my shoes since you know what happened. (“WHAT”) I mean what would you — would you do anything differently or would you do exactly what I have done?
B: I — it’s impossible to answer.
Q: It is impossible to answer.
B: Yeah. I mean I can’t even — (“YOU KNOW”) what’s happened to you is so singular.
Q: So what basically — what I realized is that we’re each one iota of God. Dickens, your cat —
B: Everybody. We’re all part. (“GOD”)
Q: Alright, exactly. I mean every person, every thing, every animal. And basically God can shuffle His little deck of iotas to give us each the experience that He thinks is most helpful to us in our evolution. Notice the word love also spells evolve. So basically, based on what your circumstances are in your relationship with God, Who is your true Lover, (“EVERY”) everything else is an aspect or a reflection of God. So let’s say this is the way you’re acting so He’ll bring his iotas Steve and Chandler into your life. (“FOR”) I mean do you understand what I’m saying? Do you believe that?
B: Yeah, that sounds right.
Q: Right. So, anyway, I guess — I don’t know. It just makes me wonder. Like the dates when Art and Ramona called me to be on the show. I just found out — (“AFTER”) you know, his announcement — (“THAT”) that same week his son had been (“NO”) in that oral sex predicament with his — well not his teacher but a substitute teacher in the county. Isn’t that unbelievable? (“SO”) See but I don’t like, though — my major complaint in spirituality is all these spiritual so-called teachers think it’s spiritually aware just to tell people these truths rather than demonstrating them in their own lives. They’re rich. I mean they’re exploitative. I mean they’re all hypocrites. Would you agree with that?
B: I don’t — I haven’t (“REALLY”) really thought about it.
Q: And we’re each —
B: I don’t think — I think if they’re spreading good — (“I MEAN TH”) that’s to be commended. (“BUT IS”)
Q: Talk is easy. (“I MEAN”) Anybody can say — (“WELL I KNOW BUT” “SO”)
B: I know but why — you don’t want — so you think you’re supposed to live a life of abject poverty?
Q: No. (“WHA[T]”) I think that we’re each supposed to live (“EQ”) — well first of all, we don’t have to take more than we give back.
B: Right. (“I HAVE”)
Q: I have everything I need. I don’t live lavishly but, frankly, when you live lavishly, it doesn’t help you. You eat unhealthy things. (“YOU”) You know, you go to stupid — you have stupid experiences. (“PLAY”) Who needs those computer games that kids play? What do you get out of — you don’t get anything out of them. This is what happens in a sick, decadent society where people have too much money.
B: (small laugh)
Q: What? And you’re a reflection of it too. You’re in that industry. That exploitative industry.
B: What industry?
Q: That book you just gave me about the writers who whore themselves off with every rewrite. (“I MEAN THEY”) They’ve lost touch with anything that they want to say. They’re just trying to give the executives what they want.
B: The Hollywood industry — (“IT’S ABOUT”) it’s all about dreams. Dream making.
Q: No, it’s about money making.
B: Well, yeah, that too. But I mean — but if you have to work for a living —
Q: Whose dreams?
B: You get to play with fantasies. (“CREATE”) Create dreams.
Q: Whose dreams end up on the screen?
B: Well what do you mean?
Q: What do I —
B: A lot of people collaborate.
Q: Isn’t it like when you’re dealing with Disney, executives tell you what they want.
B: Well they give their input.
Q: And you write what they tell you (“O”) to.
B: Yeah but a good writer or director — ]
Q: Or they get a different writer.
B: — won’t compromise his artistic vision.
Q: I think you’d better — did you read the book Monster?
Q: That book you loaned me. I’d think you’d better read that.
B: I read that. I read the whole book. Yeah.
Q: Don’t tell me that there’s any shred of the original artist’s vision that ends up on the screen. (“WELL”)
B: You try.
Q: I mean that’s
B: Well they eventually left the project and somebody else rewrote it.
Q: Well I know that.
B: But then they came back.
Q: Yes but I’m just saying it’s such a vile, evil smorgasbord. I mean these people are being tested and they don’t even realize it. (“HO”) They live their life —
B: Not everybody — (“IS A”) you look at it one way, they look at it another.
Q: That’s exactly right and I’m trying to share my experience because I come from a very spiritual place. And these people are coming from a very materialistic place. They go to Hawaii for vacations. I mean they’re so out of touch —
B: There’s nothing wrong with that. (“TO GO”)
Q: Well I know but when you’re busy in the hedonistic lifestyle, you lose touch with Spirit. With art — true art.
B: They think of themselves as being spiritual.
Q: Of course — (“THAT’S”) my whole point of my new tapes. Anyway, (“SO”) so you had a run-in last week where the editor didn’t return your call and you called who?
B: (no response)
Q: You don’t want to talk. (“OKAY” “WELL”) I mean I’m just saying (“WHAT IS THE”) what is the category of the person that you called? Was it the publisher?
B: (no response)
Q: No comment? Michael, notice that you have the word hell in your name too. Just like Hilly Rose and Art Bell (“ART”) is short for Arthur. Michael Russell. Stop looking at that — you don’t want me to say what it is. Why? I’m the one who picked it up. I think it’s funny reading about WeHo. That’s what West Hollywood is called. (“I GO TO”) No, I admit it. I go to the bookstore there, A Different Light, and get these filthy gay rags because I can’t believe what our world has come to. Sodom and Gomorrah. And people don’t even realize — talk about love like they don’t even know what it is. They think it’s sex. There’s one article that I read somewhere that just talked about ‘Well gee there’s nothing to it.’ Well that’s because they don’t even understand that love is supposed to come before sex. And these Circuit Noize magazines are the worst. I mean it just really —